[BlindMath] Latex?
White, Jason J
jjwhite at ets.org
Wed Jan 31 17:31:50 UTC 2018
Emacspeak is excellent, and always has been. I understand that it now includes mathematics reading capabilities, but I haven’t investigated those yet.
From: Derek Scott Riemer [mailto:Derek.Riemer at colorado.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 12:28 PM
To: White, Jason J <jjwhite at ets.org>
Cc: Kevin Fjelsted <kfjelsted at gmail.com>; Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Latex?
What about with emacspeak?
On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 7:50 AM, White, Jason J <jjwhite at ets.org<mailto:jjwhite at ets.org>> wrote:
I tested TeXShop during the weekend (though not extensively). It worked well with VoiceOver, supporting the insertion of document templates. As with most editors built to support TeX/LaTeX, it can automate the PDF generation process.
What I didn’t find were menus or keyboard commands to insert commonly used LaTeX macros and environments (as in AUCTeX Mode under Emacs). However, as earlier noted, Emacs is not very accessible under Mac OS, even from the terminal.
From: White, Jason J
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 9:34 PM
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Subject: RE: [BlindMath] Latex?
Thanks, Kevin - this has prompted me to update my MacTeX installation so I can try TeXShop with VoiceOver.
What are others using under Microsoft Windows to edit LaTeX documents? I generally prefer Emacs with AucTeX mode, but I’m always interested in exploring what is available. Under Linux, the best choices are definitely Emacs (my preference) or Vim.
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Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Latex?
FOr the Mac the package previously mentioned which is the standard tug.org<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftug.org&data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7Ca3d0c92b88f447d5c1df08d565f3cfa8%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636527020231786051&sdata=s%2B9Q%2BcXR7dXarz%2Bg6c%2FgqNtq4yJqNKbNojjNBEAqyeE%3D&reserved=0> installation; http://www.tug.org/mactex/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tug.org%2Fmactex%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7Ca3d0c92b88f447d5c1df08d565f3cfa8%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636527020231786051&sdata=IhcwzE3bYiDk16Eydy9xPDwaWN1pZ8B0hGhVHSlSwQM%3D&reserved=0>
includes a tool that is called TexShop. TexShop is fully VoiceOver accessible.
When one runs the installer package that may be downloaded from the above listed location, the entire Latex environment is installed and ready to go.
-Kevin
On Jan 27, 2018, at 7:59 PM, White, Jason J via BlindMath <blindmath at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
For Mac, I would recommend MacTeX: http://www.tug.org/mactex/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tug.org%2Fmactex%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7Ca3d0c92b88f447d5c1df08d565f3cfa8%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636527020231786051&sdata=IhcwzE3bYiDk16Eydy9xPDwaWN1pZ8B0hGhVHSlSwQM%3D&reserved=0>
Together with a good text editor. When I last looked for an accessible text editor for the Mac, I chose TextMate, but there may be better options nowadays. I use Linux or Windows for most text editing tasks at the moment.
From: Derek Scott Riemer [mailto:Derek.Riemer at colorado.edu]
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Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Latex?
I am not sure about how to typeset latex on mac, but you can probably use bibtex or myktex.
On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 3:50 PM, White, Jason J via BlindMath <blindmath at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org><mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
Try the following as a first tutorial:
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If you subscribe to Bookshare, then I would recommend More Math into LaTeX by George Grätzer.
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Subject: [BlindMath] Latex?
Hi all!
I’m getting ready to go into a climatology degree. As part of that, I have to take some math courses and learn Latex which as far as I know, isn’t tought in computer programing classes at college. Since I no nothing about computer science and have been out of the math loop for a while, what are the best math programs for a Mack computer? Where is the best place to get my hands on the most accessable tutorial for learning Latex? I have already talked to the computer science list and they recamended that I also ask you guys because even though Latex is tech but I also heard that it involves math.
Blessed be!!!
Kendra Schaber
National Federation of the Blind,
Capitol Chapter,
Salem, Oregon.
"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" Author Unknown.
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