[BlindMath] Carlos Other College Resources

Mary Woodyard marywoodyard at comcast.net
Fri Jul 6 15:25:16 UTC 2018


Carlos,

It would be helpful for those who answer for people to know what Math
classes you will have to take.  If you are not a Math Major, how many math
classes do you have to take and do they include a lab or not?  I am leaving
that answer to others.

For other resources make sure you contact the following resources:

1)  You college disability center Alternative Media Department - How have
they accommodated materials for other Blind/VI Math students.  Don't assume
you won't have access to a Math Transcriber if you have not already asked.
Determine your exact course number for the Math you have to take and then
ask Alt Media to email the Math department to request your material ahead of
time.  Once you know who the Math Publisher is, google their name with
accessibility beside it and see what they offer.  Pearson does a lot of the
Math Curriculum and has a web program students at my son's college are
required to use.  Ask if a scribe or assistant is possible to help you input
your answers if you are forced to use an inaccessible web program.  Also, if
your college has Math tutoring, ask if a consistent tutor can be assigned to
assist you.  This will greatly improve your efficiency in the tutoring
center.  Your DRC Coordinator can help you with this.    One more note - my
son emails his teachers and asks for curriculum lists early so the Alt Media
department has as much time as possible to make the material accessible.

2) Your college assistive technology department - Tell them now you will
require a talking calculator like the TI 84 and you will probably want the
new APH graffiti which is a tactile display that connects to a talking
calculator that is about to ship.  It can depict with tactile images the
graphs on the calculator, but is currently in prototype so can't ship yet -
but my son who is VI will be asking for one for his last math class.  APH
also has a new multi line Braille display named the Orbit Reader 20 that you
may want to request.  I was just at the ACB convention and learned it is
backordered right now but will ship in late July.  You may also want an
accessible Scientific Calculator if you don't own your own so ask about the
TO accessible 30sx.   You want to have these technology the first day of
class so its important to meet now over the summer.  You can pull
information on these products from the APH website.

3)  Register for Vocational Rehabilitation if you have not done so already.
If your Alt Media or your Assistive Technology department denies you help or
technology, they may pick up the slack - especially with respect to the
technology.  Ask you Voc Rehab counselor.

4)  Make sure to renew your Bookshare subscription as it will continue to
cover you through college.  Also Learning Ally has a college Success Program
which is if you are enrolled, your LA subscription has been complimentary as
well.  The LA College Success program is a great mentor program so I highly
recommend it.  Third, make sure you have your BARD ap ready to go as it may
help you with books or resources.  Finally, check with your Univeristy's
library, my son has found that they have a separate accessibility department
that coordinates with the DRC, so if you need library materials get them
early if you need alt media.  Another service they have which he did not
discover until his junior year is that if he does online searches and
requests the books online - the front desk staff will retrieve the books he
needs and hold them until he can get to pick them up.  He then has to
request the Accessibility people in the library get it from the front desk
and send it to alt media - but once this process was worked out - it works
well.  Check out your college library as well.  Make sure your aps for
Learning Ally, Bookshare and BARD are all current and you know the
passwords.

Good Luck!

Mary Woodyard


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Today's Topics:

   1. College math questions (Carlos Garcia)
   2. accessing math content using screen reader (Adil Shaikh)
   3. Re: College math questions (Sabra Ewing)
   4. Re: College math questions (Bill Dengler)
   5. Re: College math questions (Akashdeep Bansal)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 21:38:11 -0500
From: Carlos Garcia <gcarlos108 at gmail.com>
To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
Subject: [BlindMath] College math questions
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Hello,
My name is Carlos, and I will be starting to study math in college this
fall. Up until this point, I have used the standard braille writer  and
paper to do math. As I won't have access to a transcriber like I did in
High school, I'd like to begin using more computer-based resources. I use A
PC with NVDA as my screen reader. I am at the moment attempting to learn
LaTex, although I don't know where to begin in terms of programs to
download or tutorials to follow. Could any of you offer any guidance on
where to begin?
Besides that, are there any other resources I should look into?
Thanks in advanced,
Carlos


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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2018 08:53:43 +0530
From: Adil Shaikh <ah.shaikh97 at gmail.com>
To: "blindmath at nfbnet.org" <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [BlindMath] accessing math content using screen reader
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Hi all, 
I had learnt math using braille math slate in schooling? days, But I have
been away from math for last 3 years. This year, I?m going to pursue my
graduation first year. I would be really grateful if someone tell me how you
access math content on windows using JAWS or NVDA. 
I have few questions.
?
1. How do you read the math content if it is in PDF file?
2. What are the accessible website to learn or practice math?
3. I have read about math player, but still find difficult to get it working
with NVDA and Firefox.
4. Is it possible to learn trigonometry or geometry using these assistive
technologies?
5. Do I have to use embossed diagram to understand the concepts?
6. How should I approach my professors to help me for my doubts?
?
?
?
Please, I need your help. 
Thanks in advance 
?
Best regards


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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 22:00:23 -0600
From: Sabra Ewing <sabra1023 at gmail.com>
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
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Subject: Re: [BlindMath] College math questions
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If you have a braille note touch, it can do math. Unless you are looking
into doing math full time, it would be counterproductive to learn markup
languages. You can just write your math in a word document. If you are going
to be doing math full-time and you want to be heavily invested in making it
look visually appealing, then yes, learn a markup language. You can do a lot
with XL as well.

Sabra Ewing

> On Jul 5, 2018, at 8:38 PM, Carlos Garcia via BlindMath
<blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> My name is Carlos, and I will be starting to study math in college this
> fall. Up until this point, I have used the standard braille writer  and
> paper to do math. As I won't have access to a transcriber like I did in
> High school, I'd like to begin using more computer-based resources. I use
A
> PC with NVDA as my screen reader. I am at the moment attempting to learn
> LaTex, although I don't know where to begin in terms of programs to
> download or tutorials to follow. Could any of you offer any guidance on
> where to begin?
> Besides that, are there any other resources I should look into?
> Thanks in advanced,
> Carlos
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Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2018 05:02:18 +0000
From: Bill Dengler <codeofdusk at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [BlindMath] College math questions
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Sabra,
I suppose if you?re just writing for yourself, you can use whichever
notation you feel comfortable with, even a personal/Invented code.
Otherwise, no, Sabra, it?s not ?counterproductive? to learn a markup
language that can easily be converted to a readable format, such as a
printed PDF or MathML document, for others (particularly sighted people) to
look at.

Bill
> On 6 Jul 2018, at 04:00, Sabra Ewing via BlindMath <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
> 
> If you have a braille note touch, it can do math. Unless you are looking
into doing math full time, it would be counterproductive to learn markup
languages. You can just write your math in a word document. If you are going
to be doing math full-time and you want to be heavily invested in making it
look visually appealing, then yes, learn a markup language. You can do a lot
with XL as well.
> 
> Sabra Ewing
> 
>> On Jul 5, 2018, at 8:38 PM, Carlos Garcia via BlindMath
<blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> My name is Carlos, and I will be starting to study math in college this
>> fall. Up until this point, I have used the standard braille writer  and
>> paper to do math. As I won't have access to a transcriber like I did in
>> High school, I'd like to begin using more computer-based resources. I use
A
>> PC with NVDA as my screen reader. I am at the moment attempting to learn
>> LaTex, although I don't know where to begin in terms of programs to
>> download or tutorials to follow. Could any of you offer any guidance on
>> where to begin?
>> Besides that, are there any other resources I should look into?
>> Thanks in advanced,
>> Carlos
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2018 16:36:33 +0530
From: Akashdeep Bansal <akashdeep.bansal4 at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [BlindMath] College math questions
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Hi Carios,

I will recommend you to try out MathType and MathPlayer. MathType will help
you in converting LaTeX equations into the visual format in MS word
document. MathPlayer with NVDA will help you in reading that equation in
audio.

For your personal work, I will recommend you to use ASCII convention for
writing the mathematical equations.

Hope this will help you!

Best
Akashdeep

On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 10:32 AM, Bill Dengler via BlindMath <
blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Sabra,
> I suppose if you?re just writing for yourself, you can use whichever
> notation you feel comfortable with, even a personal/Invented code.
> Otherwise, no, Sabra, it?s not ?counterproductive? to learn a markup
> language that can easily be converted to a readable format, such as a
> printed PDF or MathML document, for others (particularly sighted people)
to
> look at.
>
> Bill
> > On 6 Jul 2018, at 04:00, Sabra Ewing via BlindMath
<blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > If you have a braille note touch, it can do math. Unless you are looking
> into doing math full time, it would be counterproductive to learn markup
> languages. You can just write your math in a word document. If you are
> going to be doing math full-time and you want to be heavily invested in
> making it look visually appealing, then yes, learn a markup language. You
> can do a lot with XL as well.
> >
> > Sabra Ewing
> >
> >> On Jul 5, 2018, at 8:38 PM, Carlos Garcia via BlindMath <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >> My name is Carlos, and I will be starting to study math in college this
> >> fall. Up until this point, I have used the standard braille writer  and
> >> paper to do math. As I won't have access to a transcriber like I did in
> >> High school, I'd like to begin using more computer-based resources. I
> use A
> >> PC with NVDA as my screen reader. I am at the moment attempting to
learn
> >> LaTex, although I don't know where to begin in terms of programs to
> >> download or tutorials to follow. Could any of you offer any guidance on
> >> where to begin?
> >> Besides that, are there any other resources I should look into?
> >> Thanks in advanced,
> >> Carlos
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Research Scholar (PhD)
Amar Nath and Shashi Khosla School of Information Technology
Indian Institute of Technology Delhi
Hauz Khas, New Delhi 110016 INDIA
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