[BlindMath] Question About Backtranslation of Nemeth Math

Thu Sep 26 12:41:23 UTC 2019

Yes but that has a cost and some  don't have the cash or is it now free?

Ken

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From: BlindMath <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Neal via
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Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 8:24 AM
To: 'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'
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Cc: Neal <neal at duxsys.com>
Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Question About Backtranslation of Nemeth Math

FYI:
The Duxbury Braille Translator already supports a form of braille to print
math translation for Nemeth, UEB and Unified French braille math.
This was created to allow blind users to create braille math and convert it
to print math to share with colleagues, teachers, students and others who
are braille-impaired ( or print dependent).

With DBT 12.4, the Duxbury Braille Translator, one can input (six key in)
braille math for Nemeth and UEB (and possibly Unified French Braille) math
and Essentially convert it to print math.

This can also be done with brf braille math files.

Producing Ink print Mathematics from Braille Math for NEMETH, UEB Math, and
Unified French Braille Math; Translating mathematics braille to ink print
allows a blind student to prepare homework for a sighted teacher.

Converting a BRF of UEB text & math to Ink print
https://www.duxburysystems.com/documentation/dbt12.4/mathematics/math_brl_UE
B_UEB_print.htm

Converting a BRF of UEB text with Nemeth Code math to Ink print
https://www.duxburysystems.com/documentation/dbt12.4/mathematics/math_brl_UE
B_nemeth_print.htm

Converting a BRF of French text and French math to Ink print
https://www.duxburysystems.com/documentation/dbt12.4/mathematics/math_braill
e_french_print.htm

In addition, The Duxbury Braille Translator already supports many languages
braille math codes for print to braille translation.

Sincerely,
Neal Kuniansky
Duxbury Systems, Inc.
Phone (978) 692-3000
Email  orders at duxsys.com
URL:  www.duxburysystems.com

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From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sina
Bahram via BlindMath
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 7:55 AM
To: 'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'
Cc: Sina Bahram
Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Question About Backtranslation of Nemeth Math

Hi Susan,

Happy to talk with you about the technical side of this, hosting, etc.

Let's set up a call and then we can update the list on any developments?

Take care,
Sina

President, Prime Access Consulting, Inc.
Phone: 919-345-3832
https://www.PAC.bz
Twitter: @SinaBahram
Personal Website: https://www.sinabahram.com

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From: BlindMath <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of David Farmer via
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Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 11:14 PM
To: J Acheson via BlindMath <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
Cc: David Farmer <farmer at aimath.org>
Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Question About Backtranslation of Nemeth Math

Can the code for backtranslating Nemeth to MathML be posted on GitHub so
that other people can look at it and possibly help to improve it?

Regards,

David

On Wed, 25 Sep 2019, J Acheson via BlindMath wrote:

> As a TVI, I feel this type of application would be quite beneficial to
students, especially those in middle and senior high school in basic to
advanced courses. We want to encourage our students to use electronica
devices when possible so they may interact with their teachers and peers
with less lag time. I am especially thinking of those students who will not
be going on to pursue careers in STEM fields and thus be less likely to
dedicate themselves to learning MathML and other languages to produce and
access their work. Certainly others working at higher level math may be
interested, but this type of application I can see being immediately useful
to pre college students. Should you have a beta version, contact me
directly.
>
>> On Sep 23, 2019, at 12:04 PM, Susan Jolly via BlindMath
<blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I have a question for the people on this list.
>>
>> I believe that it would be valuable for students who are using Nemeth
math
>> as the basis for studying math in STEM subjects to be able to
automatically
>> backtranslate their Nemeth math to a format which can be displayed as 
>> standard print math. My question is this: do the people on this list
agree
>> with me that such a capability would be useful and would actually be
used?
>>
>> The reason I want to know whether or not others agree with me on this
issue
>> is because I've developed a free and open source Java app to
backtranslate
>> digital Nemeth math to MathML. (The app only recognizes electronic 
>> files, not embossed braille.) However since I can't provide the 
>> necessary infrastructure for distributing and maintaining this 
>> software, I would
need
>> to find an organization and a developer to take it on. And there's
obviously
>> no point in my trying to do this unless there are a number of other
people
>> who think such a capability is worth the effort.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Susan Jolly
>>
>>
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