[BlindMath] UEB braille display

Sun Jun 7 18:54:46 UTC 2020

Hi John,

I knew that my sister had come back from Spain speaking Castilian, so I
asked her, and she responded:
Yes I speak Castilian Spanish.
There are other languages or dialects:
Catalan, Burgos, Gallego, and Castilian.
I think there is another dialect, but Castilian is the official language.

Okay, this is definitely getting off topic, and I'll attempt to contact
WIRIS again regarding MathType+MathPlayer+NVDA.

Susan
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From: Gardner Jr, John Arvy [mailto:john.gardnerjr at oregonstate.edu]
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Subject: RE: [BlindMath] UEB braille display

Susan, this company is in Barcelona, so you better write them in Catalonian,
not Spanish!
John

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From: BlindMath <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Susan Osterhaus
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Subject: Re: [BlindMath] UEB braille display

My Spanish is horrible, but my sister is bi-lingual. She lived in Venezuela
for 20+ years, spent a couple summers in Spain, and now translates here in
Texas. Maybe she'll translate my message for me! Thanks for the tip George.

ONCE (Organización Nacional de Ciegos Españoles) - Spanish National
Organisation of the Blind - has a strong presence in Barcelona. Are there
any members of ONCE on this list?

Susan

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From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of George
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Subject: Re: [BlindMath] UEB braille display

Just a tip here,

If your Spanish is good, suggest writing to them in their own language.

I have to confess that their understanding of my fairly well spoken Scottish
English often leaves me wondering, and we're just a lowly dealer here in the
UK.

George

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From: BlindMath <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Neil Soiffer via
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Sent: 05 June 2020 20:54
To: Susan Osterhaus <osterhauss at tsbvi.edu>
Cc: Neil Soiffer <soiffer at alum.mit.edu>; Blind Math list for those
interested in mathematics <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [BlindMath] UEB braille display

MathPlayer is owned by WIRIS as you noted. I'm very sad to say WIRIS has not
agreed to publish the fixes to MathPlayer I have, let alone agreed to let me
publish future improvements such as 64 bit support for Word. I strongly
suggest people interested in seeing MathPlayer improved write to
support at wiris.com. I feel that if they aren't going to support MathPlayer
and won't have a replacement for its future in the near term, they should at
least let improvements be made to it (i'm doing this for free); long term, I
wish they would opensource the code. It's not my call since I don't own the
code. I may work on a replacement later in the summer, but it wouldn't be
ready until next year sometime.

WIRIS makes good products and has good people working for it, but they seem
to lack accessibility expertise and the accessibility of their products
besides MathPlayer is behind the times, often relying on alt text.

    Neil

On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 10:46 AM Susan Osterhaus <osterhauss at tsbvi.edu>
wrote:

> As you well know Neil, there is a need to update MathPlayer, so that
> some of us can use MathPlayer+MathType+NVDA with 64-bit MS Word. We
> are currently having to use MS Word 32-bit with our 64-bit computers.
> Is there anything that we can do to help support this going forward?
> Or maybe I should say to help support you? I did write a letter to
> WIRIS in regard to this, but I heard nothing back. Also, I'm still
> fine with Nemeth!
>
> Susan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Neil Soiffer via BlindMath
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> Cc: Neil Soiffer <soiffer at alum.mit.edu>
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] UEB braille display
>
> MathPlayer gets its braille via liblouis. Liblouis currently doesn't
> support UEB math. I believe that APH has done some work on UEB support
> and said they would contribute that back to liblouis at some point,
> but that hasn't happened yet. Trying to move this forward is on my
> todo list, but it is not near the top of my list at the moment.
>
>     Neil
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 6:47 AM Bill Dengler via BlindMath <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> > MathPlayer sadly seems not to support UEB, just UK maths/Taylor. On
> > my device iOS renders the math in an unusual proprietary format.
> > Would also be very interested in a solution!
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Jun 3, 2020, at 09:34, Shannon Pruitt via BlindMath <
> > blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > I haven’t needed to work on this in awhile so I may be out of
> practice.
> > However, I have written some math in MathML and am trying to access
> > electronically on a braille display. I have tried using NVDA on my
> > PC as well as iOS.  However even when I choose UEB the math is
> > showing up in Nemeth. Any suggestions?
> > >
> > > Shannon
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