[BlindMath] Learning High School Math

Mon Jul 26 00:30:38 UTC 2021

It does run on Win10 but as you say only in 32-bit Office.

Bill
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From: BlindMath <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Traci W via BlindMath
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And MathPlayer won't work with Windows 10 and only 32-bit.  I tried recently and it doesn't work.  I did contact and they made suggestions but it doesn't sound like they are updating it.

Traci

On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 7:29 PM gary via BlindMath <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Don’t know this is the first time  , I am hearing about math player.
>
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> From: BlindMath <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Rastislav 
> Kish via BlindMath
> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 4:25 PM
> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Rastislav Kish <rastislav.kish at protonmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Learning High School Math
>
> Hey there,
>
> one question, does MathPlayer still exist? Or what happened to it?
>
>
> It has crossed my mind as well in the discussion as it was the only 
> choice of accessing math in Jaws 16-? Or 15- I'm not sure now.
>
>
> But search results from Google simply redirect me to MathType, which 
> doesn't seem to have included the MathPlayer functionality as far as 
> I've tested.
>
> Does anyone know what happened?
>
>
> Best regards
>
>
> Rastislav
>
>
> Dňa 25. 7. 2021 o 5:56 Shail M via BlindMath napísal(a):
> > Hi @Susan,
> >
> > Hope, you are doing well. Thanks much for providing the references 
> > to
> the Math books.
> >
> > Though Math equation speak is normally error prone by NVDA as well 
> > as
> JAWS. I lately learned that Math Player + Firefox + NVDA is the best 
> among all options. I am trying it out.
> >
> > Canute is really promising and something that might be affordable
> compared to other notetakers. I really hope, this becomes the game 
> changer and people with VI can read more content with scrolling for every line.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Shail
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BlindMath <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Susan 
> > Jolly via BlindMath
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 4:20 PM
> > To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> > Cc: Susan Jolly <easjolly at ix.netcom.com>
> > Subject: [BlindMath] Learning High School Math
> >
> > Hi Shail,
> >
> > Thank you for reading my article and your nice words about it.
> >
> > You mentioned an algebra book on OpenStax that seems like it would 
> > be
> difficult to convert to braille.  I agree.  It may be that the UTMOST 
> project I mentioned previously is planning to provide some algebra 
> books in braille.  You might want to contact them if the next two 
> suggestions aren't helpful.
> >
> > Here are two sources for braille books including algebra books which 
> > are
> available free to eligible persons.  A TVI should know what is 
> required to request a book from either source.
> >
> > The APH Louis database attempts to keep a record of every available 
> > book
> transcribed to braille for educational purposes.
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> >
> > BookShare has a huge number of books in various accessible formats
> including algebra books in braille.
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww
> > .b 
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> >
> > You also mentioned the difficulty of working with a complex formula 
> > in
> either LaTeX or Nemeth.  There's actually been a lot of research in 
> the area of how to explore complex formulas non-visually.  To take 
> your example one possibility would reveal the outermost view as an 
> expresson raised to a fractional power. The first  inner view is that 
> the expression is a simple fraction.  Next one could explore the 
> numerator and denominator and then their individual factors.
> >
> > It is my understanding that both MathJax and NVDA provide for such
> exploration via tabbing.  I don't know the details of how to do this 
> but perhaps someone else on the list can help.
> >
> > As for manipulating the formula in braille it might be helpful to 
> > have
> an embossed braille copy.  Some people prefer to do braille math on a 
> Perkins so as to read several lines at once.  The Canute 360 braille 
> e-reader which has nine 40-cell lines  is just back in production so 
> that will be another option hopefully available soon.
> >
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.
> > br 
> > istolbraille.co.uk%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0928d9e998d6450565e408d9
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> > Best wishes,
> > Susan J.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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