[BlindMath] Mathematica

[Eric Mandell]

Hey Rastislav and Jacob,

Thanks for your input. I totally agree with you both. I'm in the
process of learning python right now. SageMath looks really cool,
thanks for mentioning that Rastislav.

Cheers,
Eric




On 6/8/21, Jacob Torres via BlindMath <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I totally agree with Rastislav here! Mind you, I've never used
> Mathematica, but I've been studying data science with Python for a
> while now, and it has become my best friend. I use the built-in NVDA
> Python interpreter as a simple calculator, which is 100% accessible
> obviously. But Python is extremely powerful in the realm of
> mathematical programming in general. You can gain a ton of utility by
> writing your own simple scripts (or even entire programs) to do
> exactly what you need them to do. ​Also, I use Desmos for graphing and
> matrix calculations, and that has worked really well.
>
> Personally I don't like using software that is still refusing to
> update their user interface to serve people with disabilities.
> Especially when, as Rastislav mentioned, their software is closed and
> for-profit, and they're unwilling or even hostile to customer feedback
> just because we're a small user base. I had a similar problem using
> Keil Uvision
> when I was learning assembly programming, as well as other software
> products. I try to go open-source as often as possible because I know
> that either someone is working on it and open to feedback, or I can
> work on it myself. Just my two cents there.
>
> Best,
> Jacob
>
> On 6/8/21, Rastislav Kish via BlindMath <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I apologize, that was supposed to go to the list. :)
>>
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>>
>> Rastislav
>>
>>
>> Dňa 8. 6. 2021 o 15:14 Rastislav Kish napísal(a):
>>> Hey there,
>>>
>>> I have tried Mathematica some time ago, and it was completely
>>> inaccessible.
>>>
>>> I have asked the support if there was something I missed, but they
>>> have replied that the software is not made with screenreaders in mind,
>>> so unfortunately, it's not accessible.
>>>
>>>
>>> Although, it may be worth noting, that the Wolfram kernel is a
>>> standalone command line program, which you can use just fine with the
>>> wolfram script syntax.
>>>
>>>
>>> As for me, I'm personally not using either. I use Python for
>>> mathematical stuff, which can do far more than Mathematica, Matlab or
>>> any other isolated environment could ever imagine to do. Python is one
>>> of the biggest programming languages out there, has a strong support
>>> for mathematics and related sciences (tensorflow, numpy, sympy etc.)
>>>
>>> I use SageMath as well, which unifies various tools like Maxima or R
>>> under one, unified Python interface, so I have in my hands the full
>>> power of one of the most powerful languages as well as all the power
>>> of the most powerful mathematical tools out there.
>>>
>>> Everything open-source, without having to pay a single cent.
>>>
>>>
>>> With equipment like this, I personally don't see a reason to use
>>> closed-source, proprietary commercial tools with limited abilities and
>>> mostly isolated environments, not even mentioning the prices under
>>> which they're sold.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>>
>>> Rastislav
>>>
>>>
>>> Dňa 7. 6. 2021 o 20:49 Eric Mandell via BlindMath napísal(a):
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone successfully using Mathematica with a screen reader?
>>>> Currently, I am using matlab with the "matlab -nojvm" flag which works
>>>> really well. Has anyone had similar success finding a method for
>>>> running Mathematica?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Eric
>>>>
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