[BlindMath] Inaccessible math books

David Farmer farmer at aimath.org
Mon Mar 1 15:26:19 UTC 2021


Does one really need to learn MathML, or can one use MathJax
to convert LaTeX math to MathML?

On Mon, 1 Mar 2021, Sanchit Ghule via BlindMath wrote:

> Ha Ha. Well said Michael.
> Asking book publisher for accessible material is like sweating for small
> stuff. And finally turned out that I have to have learn math ML. I wish I
> would have enough intelligence rather than depending on artificial one. May
> god shower GPL for me.
> Sanchit.
>
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2021, 8:24 PM Michael Evers via BlindMath <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Bookshare does not currently offer
>> math textbooks in the MathML Format.  Trying to find a vender with the
>> expertise to perform transcription services for converting math textbooks
>> into MathML is like pulling teeth.  The only solution is for you to try to
>> learn MathML and perform the conversions yourself.
>>         There are software programs that can do a lot of the work for you,
>> but you
>> will still have to go through all of the mathematical expressions to make
>> sure that all of the transcriptions were performed correctly.  That task in
>> and of itself can take several months depending on how much time and human
>> resources you have at your disposal.  Most likely, converting these
>> textbooks into MathML is nothing more than a pipe dream until this pandemic
>> is over and venders make themselves available again.
>>         Good luck getting the textbook publishers to convert their
>> materials into
>> MathML for you.  That task is even more impossible to accomplish, because
>> they don't care.  I know that I have tried getting textbooks converted into
>> MathML for one of my engineering students and have not been able to find
>> any
>> venders willing or able to help my university at all.  Every vender that I
>> have reached out to, including UC Boulder and Georgia Tech Center for
>> Instructional Design have all said they do not have the human resources to
>> convert textbook materials into MathML, because of the COVID-19 pandemic,
>> but if they have materials in their repositories, they would gladly let me
>> have access to them.  The problem is, my student's professors are requiring
>> textbooks that are currently not in these vender's repositories.  So, we're
>> back to square one.  Good luck trying to find these resources.  Let us know
>> how it works out.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Akashdeep Bansal <akashdeep.bansal4 at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 1:20 AM
>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Inaccessible math books
>>
>> You can check on Bookshare.
>>
>> I-Stem (http://www.istemai.com/) provides service for conversion of
>> documents into accessible formats. We also fixes the bugs through manual
>> corrections and can provide output in mml. Pls let me know if you are
>> interested.
>>
>> On 3/1/21, Kellee Sanchez via BlindMath <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Hello! We have a student in higher level math class, aerodynamics to
>>> be exact, and the online book is not accessible. There are many people
>>> working on a viable avenues to get the student their book before the
>>> semester ends, but it is looking bleak. Does anyone have suggestions
>>> how to get the book into MML? Also, what can I do when this occurs
>>> again? Who can I contact? The book is Fundamentals of Aerodynamics 6th
>>> ed. By JD Anderson. Thank you for any assistance you can give!
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>>
>> --
>> Thanks and Regards
>> Akashdeep Bansal
>> Research Scholar (PhD)
>> Amar Nath and Shashi Khosla School of Information Technology Indian
>> Institute of Technology Delhi Hauz Khas, New Delhi 110016 INDIA
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