[BlindMath] Reading an ascii math formula in nvda

Sat Nov 20 06:19:02 UTC 2021

Dear Jonathan,

Many thanks and yes, I am comparing tracking error of exchange traded funds.
So, is this  just a covariance computation? 

Pranav

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindMath <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jonathan Godfrey
via BlindMath
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 8:03 AM
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
<blindmath at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jonathan Godfrey <A.J.Godfrey at massey.ac.nz>
Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Reading an ascii math formula in nvda

Looks like the Euclidean distance between two series. Given it is finance, I
suspect returns series of two asset classes, or perhaps one asset compared
to an index of some description.
It is being adjusted for the lengths of the series.

The square root puts it back on the original scale; without the square root,
I'd call it a covariance.

HTH
Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindMath <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Neil Soiffer via
BlindMath
Sent: Saturday, 20 November 2021 2:47 PM
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
<blindmath at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Neil Soiffer <soiffer at alum.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Reading an ascii math formula in nvda

In a new browser tab, open
https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmathjax.gi
thub.io%2FMathJax-demos-web%2Finput-tex2chtml.html&data=04%7C01%7Ca.j.go
dfrey%40massey.ac.nz%7Cbeda1318cb0846ba6ac208d9abc7ccef%7C388728e1bbd0437898
dcf8682e644300%7C1%7C0%7C637729696919291767%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoi
MC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=
4yw7s43zYPoEPvRIvpvBtaX07VytKD470ec%2Bacgl2eE%3D&reserved=0.
This is a MathJaX demo page where you can paste in TeX and get the result
displayed with MathML accessible to AT.
Select the example text in the edit area and replace it with your expression
(which is TeX).
Click "Render TeX"
Move to the focus to the area below and you should be able to hear it and
interact with it. I only tried MathPlayer, but the same is probably true for
acess8math.

Hope this help,

Neil Soiffer

<https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.avg.co
m%2Femail-signature%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dlink%26utm_campaign%
3Dsig-email%26utm_content%3Dwebmail&data=04%7C01%7Ca.j.godfrey%40massey.
ac.nz%7Cbeda1318cb0846ba6ac208d9abc7ccef%7C388728e1bbd0437898dcf8682e644300%
7C1%7C0%7C637729696919291767%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJ
QIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=TyLunkISLIBGGNW
5%2BCE5SfQ2IV7m0ICSAL9voqZE2Do%3D&reserved=0>
Virus-free.
https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.avg.com
%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ca.j.godfrey%40massey.ac.nz%7Cbeda1318cb0846ba6ac208d9
abc7ccef%7C388728e1bbd0437898dcf8682e644300%7C1%7C0%7C637729696919291767%7CU
nknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJ
XVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=FAZ1LGd8XEECVxDQRMYIxL9RrUC%2BP2w09jx%2FCve%2Fh
%2BM%3D&reserved=0
<https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.avg.co
m%2Femail-signature%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dlink%26utm_campaign%
3Dsig-email%26utm_content%3Dwebmail&data=04%7C01%7Ca.j.godfrey%40massey.
ac.nz%7Cbeda1318cb0846ba6ac208d9abc7ccef%7C388728e1bbd0437898dcf8682e644300%
7C1%7C0%7C637729696919291767%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJ
QIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=TyLunkISLIBGGNW
5%2BCE5SfQ2IV7m0ICSAL9voqZE2Do%3D&reserved=0>
<#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 4:43 PM Pranav Lal via BlindMath <
blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I need to read the following formula written in ascii math with nvda. 
> I see that math player is not an option. I am not as familiar as I 
> should be with ascii math notation.
> E_d = \sqrt{\frac{\sum_{t=1}^{N}(R_{b,t} - R_{x,t})}{N-1}}
>
>
> For instance, what does \sum_{t=1}  mean? What is being added?
>
> I am using the add-on called access8Math.
>
> I went to
> https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fascii
> math.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ca.j.godfrey%40massey.ac.nz%7Cbeda1318cb
>
0846ba6ac208d9abc7ccef%7C388728e1bbd0437898dcf8682e644300%7C1%7C0%7C63772969
6919301735%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBT
iI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=xtUxksyEcTwiC4EzMaxs6EpxpNMJexHY2
cY1V%2FxIzP8%3D&reserved=0  and rendered the above formula. The math
content is being displayed but I am unable to navigate amongst different
parts of the expression. NVDA is reading  the entire expression as a block
of text.
>
> It may be easier for me to just read the above formula as is, so could 
> someone translate it into plain English perhaps?
>
> Note:
> I am doing a course relating to finance which is where the above 
> formula is being used.  The people have not had a blind student before 
> and are happy to help in whatever way they scan.
>
> I am using NVDA version 2021.2.
> Firefox version = 94.0.1 (64-bit)
> Windows version = 21H2 (OS Build 22000.318)
>
> I tried the formula in google chrome. I can hear the rendering too but 
> it sounds different than it does in firefox. Hitting enter on the 
> clickable expression does nothing and I cannot interact with the 
> expression in parts to understand it.
> Google chrome Version 96.0.4664.45 (Official Build) (64-bit) Pranav
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> BlindMath mailing list
> BlindMath at nfbnet.org
> https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbne
> t.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fblindmath_nfbnet.org&data=04%7C01%7Ca
> .j.godfrey%40massey.ac.nz%7Cbeda1318cb0846ba6ac208d9abc7ccef%7C388728e
> 1bbd0437898dcf8682e644300%7C1%7C0%7C637729696919301735%7CUnknown%7CTWF
> pbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6M
> n0%3D%7C3000&sdata=XjorJPFRIG0I7AkUqNvne0MBiPKcqUbHHkPy2Cpuc5A%3D&
> amp;reserved=0 To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your 
> account info for
> BlindMath:
>
> https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbne
> t.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fblindmath_nfbnet.org%2Fsoiffer%2540alum.mi
> t.edu&data=04%7C01%7Ca.j.godfrey%40massey.ac.nz%7Cbeda1318cb0846ba
> 6ac208d9abc7ccef%7C388728e1bbd0437898dcf8682e644300%7C1%7C0%7C63772969
> 6919301735%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzI
> iLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=wK%2BJym7YCnpuxhEb7%2
> F14bf7zsM1R%2FjkFCykdkispmW4%3D&reserved=0
> BlindMath Gems can be found at <
> https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.b
> lindscience.org%2Fblindmath-gems-home&data=04%7C01%7Ca.j.godfrey%4
> 0massey.ac.nz%7Cbeda1318cb0846ba6ac208d9abc7ccef%7C388728e1bbd0437898d
> cf8682e644300%7C1%7C0%7C637729696919301735%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJ
> WIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000
> &sdata=9XlZSgl42Lu3n3ZQ6B4JvSsyb99VBibxHK%2BPNljGbO0%3D&reserv
> ed=0>
>
_______________________________________________
BlindMath mailing list
BlindMath at nfbnet.org
https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%
2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fblindmath_nfbnet.org&data=04%7C01%7Ca.j.godfrey%4
0massey.ac.nz%7Cbeda1318cb0846ba6ac208d9abc7ccef%7C388728e1bbd0437898dcf8682
e644300%7C1%7C0%7C637729696919301735%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjA
wMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=XjorJPF
RIG0I7AkUqNvne0MBiPKcqUbHHkPy2Cpuc5A%3D&reserved=0
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
BlindMath:
https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnfbnet.org%
2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fblindmath_nfbnet.org%2Fa.j.godfrey%2540massey.ac.nz&am
p;data=04%7C01%7Ca.j.godfrey%40massey.ac.nz%7Cbeda1318cb0846ba6ac208d9abc7cc
ef%7C388728e1bbd0437898dcf8682e644300%7C1%7C0%7C637729696919301735%7CUnknown
%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6M
n0%3D%7C3000&sdata=5E0BLaDbH6q8g8MzDBFw9dVZYmATj5xpXqfmhplX2x8%3D&re
served=0
BlindMath Gems can be found at
<https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blinds
cience.org%2Fblindmath-gems-home&data=04%7C01%7Ca.j.godfrey%40massey.ac.
nz%7Cbeda1318cb0846ba6ac208d9abc7ccef%7C388728e1bbd0437898dcf8682e644300%7C1
%7C0%7C637729696919301735%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIj
oiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=9XlZSgl42Lu3n3ZQ6B
4JvSsyb99VBibxHK%2BPNljGbO0%3D&reserved=0>

_______________________________________________
BlindMath mailing list
BlindMath at nfbnet.org
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindmath_nfbnet.org
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
BlindMath:
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindmath_nfbnet.org/pranav.lal%40gmail.co
m
BlindMath Gems can be found at
<http://www.blindscience.org/blindmath-gems-home>