[BlindMath] BlindMath Digest, Vol 189, Issue 2

Wed Apr 6 21:40:49 UTC 2022

Hello,

Given your comment about Java's future, how will development continue?

My assumption is that Java is what creates the front end, with something more efficient for mathematical calculations underneath. (Correct?)

Specifically, 

Has effort been put into choosing the design parameters of the new product that will eventually replace the Java based one yet?
If so, do these parameters include making sure that accessibility as per s508 of the ADA is incorporated?

Thanks,
Jonathan

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From: BlindMath <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bora Eryilmaz via BlindMath
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Hi Kennedy and Jonathan,

Web version of MATLAB (that is MATLAB Online) is more accessible simply because it is built using web technologies (HTML, etc.) which offer better keyboard and screen reader accessibility features out of the box and allows us to follow WCAG guidelines more easily.  The desktop version of MATLAB, which was written in Java, is not as well supported anymore since Java is quickly becoming deprecated, even obsolete.

As a side note, even the IDE environment and the graphics are now much more accessible in MATLAB Online, so it might be worth a second try if anyone is interested.

Thanks,
Bora

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Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 15:38:35 -0500
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I've wondered about this myself. I attempted to use both the online and Desktop versions in graduate school, and the online version was definsely better. I would love to know why this is the case, especially given that I will be returning to school for my doctorate, and Matlab is probably in my future once again. :-)

Kennedy Stomberg, M.S. she/her/hers
(708) 801-8498

> On Apr 5, 2022, at 3:29 PM, Jonathan Godfrey via BlindMath <blindmath at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>
> ?This is fascinating.
>
> Why is a the web version more accessible than a standalone version?
>
> A long time ago, when I used Matlab as a student, the interface was totally accessible to screen reader users, aside from the graphics of course.
> Then along came the various windows and things to do more fancy things sighted people wanted, and I started to process everything via batch files and Matlab scripts.
>
> If I had to do a job in Matlab today, I'd probably have to try it in Octave first, but I'd still be looking to run a script whether it be via Octave or Matlab.
>
> Jonathan
>
>
>
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>
> Hi Lucas,
>
> I am a software developer at MathWorks, which produces MATLAB, and also a member of the Accessibility Program team working towards making MATLAB more accessible.
>
> I am not sure about the interest for creating a separate group focused on MATLAB, but I would be interested in learning about the difficulties that you are running into and providing you more resources which you may not be aware of. For example, MATLAB Online, which is the web version of MATLAB, is a lot more accessible for keyboard and screen reader users. You can find some info about it at these links:
>
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> Feel free to contact me directly at my email address if I can help.
>
> Thanks,
> Bora Eryilmaz

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