[BlindMath] Affordable and accessible calculator for CS student

Donald Winiecki dwiniecki at handid.org
Wed Apr 19 21:45:33 UTC 2023


Thank you all for your comments and advice.

DON WINIECKI




On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 3:11 PM dandrews920--- via BlindMath <
blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Somewhere, maybe on another list, I think I saw where he said the student
> was in India, so the rights and practices we take for granted here, may not
> be available.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindMath <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of John Gardner
> via
> BlindMath
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> Cc: John Gardner <john.gardner at viewplus.com>
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Affordable and accessible calculator for CS
> student
>
> Jonathan is right, and moreover, the university does not have the right to
> insist on a stand alone calculator being used unless it is something the
> student uses commonly and knows how to use.
>
> John
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindMath <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jonathan
> Godfrey
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> Cc: Jonathan Godfrey <A.J.Godfrey at massey.ac.nz>
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Affordable and accessible calculator for CS
> student
>
> Hello Don,
>
> I'm not questioning the quality of an accessible calculator in general, but
> this specific situation is all too common in that blind people are asked to
> find the solutions to the problems created by assessment exercises
> throughout their education. Sometimes that is a useful life skill to
> develop, but spending additional money just to sit exams makes little sense
> to me.
>
> Surely the university should supply the calculator if it refuses to accept
> the reasonable accommodation of the student using a laptop and approved
> calculator software on it.
>
> Even the cost of providing a human supervisor to ensure the student doesn't
> go outside the agreed software restrictions is a cheaper solution than
> purchasing a calculator which will only be used a handful of times.
>
> In an era when universities are grappling with how to assess all students,
> courtesy of AI and the copious discoverable solutions on the net, worrying
> that a student can make use of material already on their own device seems
> utterly trivial.
>
> Jonathan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindMath <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Donald
> Winiecki
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> Cc: Donald Winiecki <dwiniecki at handid.org>
> Subject: [BlindMath] Affordable and accessible calculator for CS student
>
> I have a contact who is looking for an affordable and accessible calculator
> for a Computer Science undergraduate student. The device must be standalone
> because the school does not allow use of a phone or computer during exams.
>
> I am happy to get suggestions for such devices, and where they could be
> purchased.
>
> Best,
>
> DON WINIECKI
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