[BlindMath] Reading Math with NVDA

[Neil Soiffer]

MathPlayer should be doing the pitch change whenever it reads a capital
letter that is not part of a larger word.

    Neil


On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 7:59 PM Nicholas J <314nick15 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Neil,
>
> Thank you for your response. I only hear the pitch change when typing
> a capital letter, but not when reading math using MathPlayer. Is there
> a way to have the pitch change occur when also reading math?
>
> Thank you,
> Nicholas
>
> On 1/29/23, Neil Soiffer <soiffer at alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> > If you are using MathPlayer, then it looks like it is using a pitch
> change
> > to indicate a capital letter. It is possible to change that to use a word
> > such as "cap" also or instead of the pitch change, but that is more
> > involved and requires changing the contents of a MathPlayer file (maybe
> > four lines or so). If you want to do that, let me know and I'll let you
> > know what file/lines to change.
> >
> > If you are using MathCAT, it will follow the NVDA settings for "cap",
> > pitch, and beep set in the NVDA settings speech dialog.
> >
> >     Neil
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 11:34 AM Nicholas J via BlindMath <
> > blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Thank you for the very helpful and detailed response.
> >>
> >> Is there any way to have NVDA indicate capital letters in math
> >> equations through speech?
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Nicholas
> >>
> >> On 1/24/23, Neil Soiffer via BlindMath <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >> > Based on what you wrote, I am guessing that the problematic content
> was
> >> > written in MathML and that you are using MathPlayer for your math
> >> > reading
> >> > experience. If that is true and you want to continue using MathPlayer:
> >> > 1. open up the windows control panel
> >> > 2. in the search panel (I think it opens with the focus in the search
> >> > panel), type MathPlayer and then open it
> >> > 3. in the subject area drop down of the MathPlayer control panel,
> >> > select
> >> > "Probability & Statistics"
> >> > 4. under "Speech for chemical formulas" in the MathPlayer control
> >> > panel,
> >> > choose the "Off (H sub 2 O)" radio button
> >> > 5. click "ok"
> >> >
> >> > This should remove the chemistry interpretation and add some
> >> > specialized
> >> > speech for statistics.
> >> >
> >> > You can also switch to using the MathCAT or Access8Math addons. I
> don't
> >> > believe either of them will generate chemistry speech. As the author
> of
> >> > MathCAT (and also MathPlayer), I can say the next MathCAT update does
> >> > support chemistry but is much better at distinguishing between
> >> > chemistry
> >> > and math and won't make that mistake. Like MathPlayer, MathCAT also
> has
> >> an
> >> > option to turn off chemistry speech (accessible from the NVDA settings
> >> menu
> >> > if MathCAT is installed) in case it is overly aggressive at guessing
> >> > that
> >> > something is chemistry. The next update of MathCAT is "any week now",
> >> > but
> >> > sadly that's been true for about two months as I add tweaks and work
> >> > with
> >> > translators for Vietnamese and Indonesian translations.
> >> >
> >> > MathCAT currently has little to no rules for specialized speech for
> >> > statistics. I would be grateful if you or anyone else would file
> issues
> >> on
> >> > github <https://github.com/NSoiffer/MathCAT/issues> listing notations
> >> you
> >> > would like to hear pronounced better, whether it is statistics or
> >> anything
> >> > else. Adding speech for various topic areas will likely be a focus for
> >> > MathCAT improvement later in the year.
> >> >
> >> > Neil Soiffer
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 2:20 PM Nicholas J via BlindMath <
> >> > blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hello,
> >> >>
> >> >> I want to use NVDA with statistical content in statistics courses. It
> >> >> reads most things well. In a few places, it reads P(h) as phosphorous
> >> >> open paren hydrogen close paren. Are there any settings in NVDA that
> >> >> would make it read statistical content and other math correctly?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thank you,
> >> >> Nicholas
> >> >>
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