[BlindMath] BlindMath Digest, Vol 218, Issue 8

Romack, Justin justinr at disability.tamu.edu
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Curious if anyone has thoughts on editing conversion issues when running through MathPix?

The resulting document is about 95% accurate, but I need to make some modifications.

I’m assuming pulling that resulting document from MathPix into Word with MathType and then exporting from there is the best option? Or is there a way to modify recognition directly in MathPix?

Thanks in advance!

J




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*>1. Technique and tools for converting pdf math to accessible math? (student does not know Latex). This may help, but as with all OCR based conversions, thurough checking by humans who know the content is probably waranted. https: //urldefense. com/v3/__https: //mathpix. com/__;!!KwNVnqRv!AVBmO_nNC2i0rHUvciB-jzmoWPjPzmf_ObBLQ60Pf-tCEgI3uUSGsb_x8S784ypc9wA9sFhrdTDioXGYbX-t8uaUDRio$
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*>1. Technique and tools for converting pdf math to accessible math?

(student does not know Latex).



This may help, but as with all OCR based conversions, thurough checking

by humans who know the content is probably waranted.



  https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://mathpix.com/__;!!KwNVnqRv!AVBmO_nNC2i0rHUvciB-jzmoWPjPzmf_ObBLQ60Pf-tCEgI3uUSGsb_x8S784ypc9wA9sFhrdTDioXGYbX-t8uaUDRio$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/mathpix.com/__;!!KwNVnqRv!AVBmO_nNC2i0rHUvciB-jzmoWPjPzmf_ObBLQ60Pf-tCEgI3uUSGsb_x8S784ypc9wA9sFhrdTDioXGYbX-t8uaUDRio$>





 >2. Browser/screen reader combos to read the accessible math?



Screen reader: NVDA prefered, but Jaws works as well.

Browser: Firefox prefered, but chrome works as well.



The use of MathJax in the browser paired with MathCat NVDA screen reader

addOn works well. I believe Jaws has similar funcionality built in.



For pdf conversions, convert to HTML+MathML, which then can be read with

nvda+mathCat, or jaws.



Other suggestions and approaches please ...

-- Rich



On 9/26/2024 11:19 AM, Ketty Ombadykow wrote:

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> I work at Rutgers University and am responsible for making course materials accessible for students who are screen reader users.

> We just got a transfer student who is taking precalculus now and calculus I next semester.

> Can you provide your recommendations for:

> 1. Technique and tools for converting pdf math to accessible math? (student does not know Latex).

> 2. Browser/screen reader combos to read the accessible math?

> 3. Next semester she is taking inorganic chemistry...any recommendations for making chem accessible?

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> Good afternoon.  A little bit off-topic.  I'm looking for accessible software that works well to make genogram diagrams, but thought I'd open up my search a bit to flowcharting and diagramming software more generally.  Anyone found any particular genograph, flowcharting, or other diagramming software to be accessible for creating and/or reading the diagrams?

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> I normally see if I can get he job done using mermaid. This works well for flow charts, or at least for the ones I've needed.

> I have not needed to use symbols  (other than arrows)  in my diagrams to date.

> I had to look up genogram to see what you needed. I guess this is another visual tool for our sighted audiences which we might need to make from time to time. It goes well beyond my basic pedigree relationships which are so basic I don't turn them into graphics.

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