From b.teta2005 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 17 19:55:54 2025
From: b.teta2005 at gmail.com (Bella Teta)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2025 15:55:54 -0400
Subject: [BlindRUG] R statistics program inquiries
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Hello,
MY name is Bella, and I am writing on this list to get some feedback on how
to use R software with a screen reader. I currently use JAWS and NVDA as my
primary screen readers and I am planning to take a biostatistics course
this Fall. I have never used this program before, and I am trying to seek
out resources in learning this software before I start this course. I would
gratefully appreciate tips and tricks using a screen reader with this
statistical software and anything else that could be of help to me. Thank
you.


Sincerely,


Bella Teta
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From hunsakerconsulting at gmail.com  Tue Jun 17 20:19:17 2025
From: hunsakerconsulting at gmail.com (Michael Hunsaker)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2025 14:19:17 -0600
Subject: [BlindRUG] R statistics program inquiries
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Step 1:  Posit does a great job with screen reader support.
https://support.posit.co/hc/en-us/articles/360045612413-Rstudio-Screen-Reader-Support

Step 2: I love Andy field for being clear on how to understand and use
stats programs.
https://profandyfield.com/discoverse/dsur/


Michael Ryan Hunsaker, M.Ed., Ph.D. (he/him)
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On Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 13:57 Bella Teta via BlindRUG <blindrug at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hello,
> MY name is Bella, and I am writing on this list to get some feedback on
> how to use R software with a screen reader. I currently use JAWS and NVDA
> as my primary screen readers and I am planning to take a biostatistics
> course this Fall. I have never used this program before, and I am trying to
> seek out resources in learning this software before I start this course. I
> would gratefully appreciate tips and tricks using a screen reader with this
> statistical software and anything else that could be of help to me. Thank
> you.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> Bella Teta
> _______________________________________________
> BlindRUG mailing list
> BlindRUG at nfbnet.org
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> More information and useful links about using R as a blind person can be
> obtained at:
> http://R-Resources.massey.ac.nz
>
> Look for help using R commands by reading the accessible e-book "Let's Use
> R Now" compiled by Jonathan Godfrey at:
> http://R-Resources.massey.ac.nz/lurn/front.html
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From A.J.Godfrey at massey.ac.nz  Tue Jun 17 20:37:01 2025
From: A.J.Godfrey at massey.ac.nz (Jonathan Godfrey)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2025 20:37:01 +0000
Subject: [BlindRUG] R statistics program inquiries
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Good morning Bella,

First let me commend you on being so proactive.

You asked about resources, tips, and tricks. You will have received some pointers to resources when you signed up to this list. Some of them are getting a bit tired, but finding time to update them in a world that now has lots of accessible resources is a low priority for me.

Tips and tricks are very user-specific. The most successful R users among us seem to make use of quite different approaches,
based on our research or employment needs and our backgrounds. For example, those of us who did not have decent access to RStudio during our formative experiences, haven’t all embraced RStudio since it has made improvements (myself included).

Knowing how much experience you have with programming, IDEs, and even which screen reader you are most comfortable using, and whether you have a Braille display will al help us help you.


I do suggest your proactivity includes reaching out to course staff early. Hopefully they can even help get you started using R. You will have to remember that most R users cannot function without that mouse so you will be doing things differently. Cut them some slack.

I would recommend making use of R markdown because it starts with accessible text and generates readable HTML. I would hope that a modern course would be doing this, but that will depend on the choices made by your professors. Knowing what they need you to work with will help us help you.

I would hope you make use of my BrailleR package. This will help with many graphs created using ggplot(). You won’t see the benefits until you are making graphs though.

OK, that’s enough for now,.

All the best,
Jonathan


From: BlindRUG <blindrug-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bella Teta via BlindRUG
Sent: Wednesday, 18 June 2025 7:56 am
To: blindrug at nfbnet.org
Cc: Bella Teta <b.teta2005 at gmail.com>
Subject: [BlindRUG] R statistics program inquiries

Hello,
MY name is Bella, and I am writing on this list to get some feedback on how to use R software with a screen reader. I currently use JAWS and NVDA as my primary screen readers and I am planning to take a biostatistics course this Fall. I have never used this program before, and I am trying to seek out resources in learning this software before I start this course. I would gratefully appreciate tips and tricks using a screen reader with this statistical software and anything else that could be of help to me. Thank you.


Sincerely,


Bella Teta
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From hunsakerconsulting at gmail.com  Tue Jun 17 20:51:19 2025
From: hunsakerconsulting at gmail.com (Michael Hunsaker)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2025 14:51:19 -0600
Subject: [BlindRUG] R statistics program inquiries
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I second using BrailleR. I make all my students who need accessible
plotting/plots use it.

Michael Ryan Hunsaker, M.Ed., Ph.D. (he/him)
NLS-LOC Certified UEB Transcriber
Teacher for Students with Visual Impairments
Davis School District
 CONTACT
I will reply to communication between the hours of 7:15-15:00pm MST

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On Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 14:38 Jonathan Godfrey via BlindRUG <
blindrug at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Good morning Bella,
>
>
>
> First let me commend you on being so proactive.
>
>
>
> You asked about resources, tips, and tricks. You will have received some
> pointers to resources when you signed up to this list. Some of them are
> getting a bit tired, but finding time to update them in a world that now
> has lots of accessible resources is a low priority for me.
>
>
>
> Tips and tricks are very user-specific. The most successful R users among
> us seem to make use of quite different approaches,
>
> based on our research or employment needs and our backgrounds. For
> example, those of us who did not have decent access to RStudio during our
> formative experiences, haven’t all embraced RStudio since it has made
> improvements (myself included).
>
>
>
> Knowing how much experience you have with programming, IDEs, and even
> which screen reader you are most comfortable using, and whether you have a
> Braille display will al help us help you.
>
>
>
>
>
> I do suggest your proactivity includes reaching out to course staff early.
> Hopefully they can even help get you started using R. You will have to
> remember that most R users cannot function without that mouse so you will
> be doing things differently. Cut them some slack.
>
>
>
> I would recommend making use of R markdown because it starts with
> accessible text and generates readable HTML. I would hope that a modern
> course would be doing this, but that will depend on the choices made by
> your professors. Knowing what they need you to work with will help us help
> you.
>
>
>
> I would hope you make use of my BrailleR package. This will help with many
> graphs created using ggplot(). You won’t see the benefits until you are
> making graphs though.
>
>
>
> OK, that’s enough for now,.
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Jonathan
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* BlindRUG <blindrug-bounces at nfbnet.org> *On Behalf Of *Bella Teta
> via BlindRUG
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 18 June 2025 7:56 am
> *To:* blindrug at nfbnet.org
> *Cc:* Bella Teta <b.teta2005 at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* [BlindRUG] R statistics program inquiries
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> MY name is Bella, and I am writing on this list to get some feedback on
> how to use R software with a screen reader. I currently use JAWS and NVDA
> as my primary screen readers and I am planning to take a biostatistics
> course this Fall. I have never used this program before, and I am trying to
> seek out resources in learning this software before I start this course. I
> would gratefully appreciate tips and tricks using a screen reader with this
> statistical software and anything else that could be of help to me. Thank
> you.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
>
>
> Bella Teta
> _______________________________________________
> BlindRUG mailing list
> BlindRUG at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindrug_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> BlindRUG:
>
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindrug_nfbnet.org/hunsakerconsulting%40gmail.com
> The list archive can be viewed at:
> http://www.nfbnet.org/pipermail/blindrug_nfbnet.org
> More information and useful links about using R as a blind person can be
> obtained at:
> http://R-Resources.massey.ac.nz
>
> Look for help using R commands by reading the accessible e-book "Let's Use
> R Now" compiled by Jonathan Godfrey at:
> http://R-Resources.massey.ac.nz/lurn/front.html
>
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From b.teta2005 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 17 22:11:20 2025
From: b.teta2005 at gmail.com (Bella Teta)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2025 18:11:20 -0400
Subject: [BlindRUG] R statistics program inquiries
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 Thank you, everyone for all the insightful information, and I really
appreciate all the resources that were given in this  thread. As for some
of the questions, I am pretty proficient with using JAWS, NVDA, as well as
narrator. I had some limited training with Lennox and I currently use a
Human Wear brailliant 20 X which I would say, I am proficient in. I hope
this helps answer any questions that you might’ve had and let me know if
there’s any additional information I should be aware of. “”Thank  you so
much.



Sincerely,






 Bella TetaOn Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 16:38 Jonathan Godfrey via BlindRUG <
blindrug at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Good morning Bella,
>
>
>
> First let me commend you on being so proactive.
>
>
>
> You asked about resources, tips, and tricks. You will have received some
> pointers to resources when you signed up to this list. Some of them are
> getting a bit tired, but finding time to update them in a world that now
> has lots of accessible resources is a low priority for me.
>
>
>
> Tips and tricks are very user-specific. The most successful R users among
> us seem to make use of quite different approaches,
>
> based on our research or employment needs and our backgrounds. For
> example, those of us who did not have decent access to RStudio during our
> formative experiences, haven’t all embraced RStudio since it has made
> improvements (myself included).
>
>
>
> Knowing how much experience you have with programming, IDEs, and even
> which screen reader you are most comfortable using, and whether you have a
> Braille display will al help us help you.
>
>
>
>
>
> I do suggest your proactivity includes reaching out to course staff early.
> Hopefully they can even help get you started using R. You will have to
> remember that most R users cannot function without that mouse so you will
> be doing things differently. Cut them some slack.
>
>
>
> I would recommend making use of R markdown because it starts with
> accessible text and generates readable HTML. I would hope that a modern
> course would be doing this, but that will depend on the choices made by
> your professors. Knowing what they need you to work with will help us help
> you.
>
>
>
> I would hope you make use of my BrailleR package. This will help with many
> graphs created using ggplot(). You won’t see the benefits until you are
> making graphs though.
>
>
>
> OK, that’s enough for now,.
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Jonathan
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* BlindRUG <blindrug-bounces at nfbnet.org> *On Behalf Of *Bella Teta
> via BlindRUG
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 18 June 2025 7:56 am
> *To:* blindrug at nfbnet.org
> *Cc:* Bella Teta <b.teta2005 at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* [BlindRUG] R statistics program inquiries
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> MY name is Bella, and I am writing on this list to get some feedback on
> how to use R software with a screen reader. I currently use JAWS and NVDA
> as my primary screen readers and I am planning to take a biostatistics
> course this Fall. I have never used this program before, and I am trying to
> seek out resources in learning this software before I start this course. I
> would gratefully appreciate tips and tricks using a screen reader with this
> statistical software and anything else that could be of help to me. Thank
> you.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
>
>
> Bella Teta
> _______________________________________________
> BlindRUG mailing list
> BlindRUG at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindrug_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> BlindRUG:
>
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindrug_nfbnet.org/b.teta2005%40gmail.com
> The list archive can be viewed at:
> http://www.nfbnet.org/pipermail/blindrug_nfbnet.org
> More information and useful links about using R as a blind person can be
> obtained at:
> http://R-Resources.massey.ac.nz
>
> Look for help using R commands by reading the accessible e-book "Let's Use
> R Now" compiled by Jonathan Godfrey at:
> http://R-Resources.massey.ac.nz/lurn/front.html
>
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