<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thanks Jude,<div class="">My experience was that Window-Eyes just didn't work with Emacs very well. I'm curious about which screen you are using now for this. Are you able to do it with NVDA?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks,</div><div class="">Liz</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 21, 2017, at 12:14 PM, Jude DaShiell <<a href="mailto:jdashiel@panix.com" class="">jdashiel@panix.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">At first I had trouble using emacs in windows until I got instructions on how inside emacs to locate where emacs thought its home directory was located. When I found that, then I knew where to put my .emacs file. The .emacs file needs renaming to _emacs for the windows version too.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">That was emacs without statistical applications running with it and probably additional configuration details will be coming for those packages.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">On Fri, 21 Jul 2017, Liz Hare via BlindRUG wrote:</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 11:53:49<br class="">From: Liz Hare via BlindRUG <<a href="mailto:blindrug@nfbnet.org" class="">blindrug@nfbnet.org</a>><br class="">To: Blind R Users Group <<a href="mailto:blindrug@nfbnet.org" class="">blindrug@nfbnet.org</a>><br class="">Cc: Liz Hare <<a href="mailto:doggene@earthlink.net" class="">doggene@earthlink.net</a>><br class="">Subject: Re: [BlindRUG] Emacs for Statistical Applications with Screen Readers<br class="">Yes, I'm very curious about how Robin is using Emacs in Windows with a screen reader!<br class=""><br class="">Thanks!<br class="">Liz<br class=""><br class="">Liz Hare, PhD<br class="">Dog Genetics LLC<br class=""><a href="mailto:doggene@earthlink.net" class="">doggene@earthlink.net</a><br class=""><a href="http://www.doggenetics.com/" class="">http://www.doggenetics.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="http://www.doggenetics.com/" class="">http://www.doggenetics.com/</a>><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Jul 21, 2017, at 3:07 AM, Laxmisagar Samai via BlindRUG <<a href="mailto:blindrug@nfbnet.org" class="">blindrug@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Thank you Liz,<br class="">Robin, would be waiting for your reply.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On 7/20/17, Williams, Robin via BlindRUG <<a href="mailto:blindrug@nfbnet.org" class="">blindrug@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Hi all,<br class=""><br class="">I use R with Emacs (not Emacspeak) under windows on a daily basis, it's by<br class="">far my preferred method of working. I'm away on holiday this week, so am<br class="">very short of time. I'll reply in more detail next week.<br class=""><br class="">Bests<br class="">Robin<br class=""><br class="">-----Original Message-----<br class="">From: BlindRUG [<a href="mailto:blindrug-bounces@nfbnet.org" class="">mailto:blindrug-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>] On Behalf Of Liz Hare<br class="">via BlindRUG<br class="">Sent: 20 July 2017 14:30<br class="">To: Blind R Users Group<br class="">Cc: Liz Hare<br class="">Subject: Re: [BlindRUG] Emacs for Statistical Applications with Screen<br class="">Readers<br class=""><br class="">Hi Laxmisagar,<br class=""><br class="">I think it's pretty difficult to use a screen reader with Emacs in Windows,<br class="">unless you can get Emacspeak running. There is a port of Emacspeak for<br class="">Windows but it's not in wide use and I don't have direct experience with<br class="">it.<br class=""><br class="">I do use R with Emacspeak on Mac and have also done it on Linux. Emacs has a<br class="">package called Emacs Speaks Statistics (ESS) that facilitates running R<br class="">interactively. I like this setup but it has a pretty steep learning curve<br class="">and I kind of learn the bits and pieces I need as I go along.<br class=""><br class="">Liz<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Jul 19, 2017, at 7:02 AM, Laxmisagar Samai via BlindRUG<br class=""><<a href="mailto:blindrug@nfbnet.org" class="">blindrug@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Hello,<br class=""><br class="">Does anyone has any experience in using Emacs as an editing<br class="">application for statistical softwares like, R, SAS and STATA with<br class="">screen readers on a windows machine?<br class="">I request for some help.<br class=""><br class="">Thank you<br class="">Laxmisagar<br class="">Mumbai (India)<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">BlindRUG mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:BlindRUG@nfbnet.org" class="">BlindRUG@nfbnet.org</a><br class=""><a 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