<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Thank you both! This is super helpful! Disappointing to hear that R Studio isn't caring much about accessibility. And I love the perspective about clicking buttons leading to a lack of understanding of what you're doing, as I think that's super important in the world of statistics! I like the coding anyway, so I'll stick with R! :-) <br><br><div dir="ltr">Kennedy Stomberg, M.S. she/her/hers <div>(218)295-2391 </div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Oct 15, 2021, at 9:41 AM, Kelli Johnson - NOAA Federal via BlindRUG <blindrug@nfbnet.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Kennedy,<div>Thanks for posting your question and hopefully I am replying in the appropriate manner, this is my first time replying on this list. I am a sighted person that does statistics and report writing for a living but I do not use RStudio because I do not like clicking buttons. I think it leads to a lack of understanding regarding what I am doing. You can do everything you need to outside of RStudio, I use sublime. I am happy to help in any way that I can to get the message through to RStudio developers that accessibility of their product should be increased and that they should be working with those in need to understand the issues.</div><div>Kind regards,</div><div>Kelli</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 7:28 AM Liz Hare via BlindRUG <<a href="mailto:blindrug@nfbnet.org">blindrug@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi Kennedy,<br>
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RStudio is not accessible. They have claimed to be working on it and that it will be in the "next" release for several years. They are not treating it as a priority, and are not involving blind people in its development.<br>
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I think there is s server version that is partially useable but'm not up on that.<br>
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I won't be spending time on it when it's first released because I'm not willing to be a free beta tester for the RStudio company.<br>
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Liz<br>
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> On Oct 15, 2021, at 9:52 AM, Kennedy Stomberg via BlindRUG <<a href="mailto:blindrug@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">blindrug@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Hello, fellow Blind R users, <br>
> <br>
> I have been using R for a few years now, and I've heard that R Studio is a similar program that is much easier to use! When I tried to use R Studio back in 2018, it didn't seem to be all that accessible. But I was also a first-year graduate student so I may not have totally known what I was doing. <br>
> <br>
> Anyway, what are your experiences with R Studio? Is it accessible? Is it worth downloading and trying to learn again? <br>
> <br>
> Thanks in advance for your help! <br>
> Kennedy <br>
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> Kennedy Stomberg, M.S. she/her/hers <br>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Kelli Faye Johnson, PhD</div><div>Research Fish Biologist</div><div>Northwest Fisheries Science Center</div><div>National Marine Fisheries Service</div><div>2725 Montlake Boulevard East</div><div>Seattle, Washington 98112</div><div>(206) 860-3490<br></div><div><a href="mailto:kelli.johnson@noaa.gov" target="_blank">kelli.johnson@noaa.gov</a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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