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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hello all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">For the purposes of anyone reading JooYoung’s excellent suggestion, I’d note that the only reason his suggestion is useful is because he has assumed the user is operating in an R markdown (or Quarto)
workflow.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">(If I recall correctly this is true for Miso.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I have to admit that my emphasis on helping improve the accessibility of R output has move heavily towards this workflow.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I know it places some extra burden on blind people if their classmates aren’t using markdown. On the other hand, I’m also tiring of poor educational outcomes arising from students in the mainstream
not getting taught how to use the modern tools and enjoying the corresponding advantages.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Courses not using a reproducible workflow are (IMO) frequently 20<sup>th</sup> century thinking with a newer interface. The students who will end up getting further on life as creators of information
using data will be the ones who are the most efficient and effective.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">All professionals need to allocate time for personal development; I believe that this is even more crucial for blind people who are already at risk of seeming less efficient or less effective as
compared to their sighted colleagues.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">There are exceptions. I am well aware of an increasing number of blind people who like me are efficient and effective in their chosen fields, not all of whom use the most modern tools. At some stage
though, I hope these people are taking some time to evaluate how much longer their current practices are going to sustain them in a competitive world. I know I continue to evaluate my own practices, and do so frequently.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ligatures:none"> BlindRUG <blindrug-bounces@nfbnet.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Seo, JooYoung via BlindRUG<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 15, 2023 8:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Blind R Users Group <blindrug@nfbnet.org><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Seo, JooYoung <jseo1005@illinois.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [BlindRUG] Reading output and easily understanding which number corresponds to what<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hello Miso,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Yes, that’s possible. Please find the following code snippet and I hope that this helps. I have included the R code inside the r codeblock.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">``` r<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"># Install the following packages first if not available<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">library(tidyverse) # This is for data wrangling in general<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">library(tidymodels) # Useful package for modeling<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">library(gt) # making publication-ready table<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"># Save your model<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">out.lm <- lm(dist ~ speed, data = cars)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"># Use tidy function to make your model as a tidy grid form<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">tidy(out.lm) %>%<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> # Use gt function to display the output in your browser as an html format<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> gt()<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">```<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">All the best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">JooYoung<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black;mso-ligatures:none">--------------------<br>
</span><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#13294B;mso-ligatures:none">JooYoung Seo, Ph.D. (he/him/his)<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;vertical-align:baseline"><i><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#13294B;mso-ligatures:none">Assistant Professor,
</span></i><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#13294B;mso-ligatures:none">School of Information Sciences</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black;mso-ligatures:none"><br>
</span><i><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#13294B;mso-ligatures:none">Faculty Affiliate,
</span></i><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#13294B;mso-ligatures:none">National Center for Supercomputing Applications</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black;mso-ligatures:none"><br>
</span><i><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#13294B;mso-ligatures:none">Faculty Affiliate,
</span></i><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#13294B;mso-ligatures:none">Illinois Informatics Institute<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#13294B;mso-ligatures:none">University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black;mso-ligatures:none"><br>
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#13294B;mso-ligatures:none">Room 5158, 614 E. Daniel St.
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#13294B;mso-ligatures:none">Champaign, IL 61820</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black;mso-ligatures:none"><br>
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#13294B;mso-ligatures:none">(217) 333-2671 | </span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ligatures:none"><a href="mailto:jseo1005@illinois.edu"><span style="color:blue">jseo1005@illinois.edu</span></a><span style="color:black"><br>
</span><span style="color:#13294B"><a href="https://ischool.illinois.edu/people/jooyoung-seo"><span style="color:blue">ischool.illinois.edu/people/jooyoung-seo</span></a></span><span style="color:black"><br>
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</span><i><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#666666;mso-ligatures:none">Under the Illinois Freedom of Information Act any written communication to or from university employees regarding university business is a public record and may be subject to public disclosure.</span></i><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ligatures:none"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ligatures:none"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ligatures:none"> BlindRUG <blindrug-bounces@nfbnet.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Miso Kwak via BlindRUG<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 14, 2023 11:18 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Blind R Users Group' <blindrug@nfbnet.org><br>
<b>Cc:</b> misokwak12@gmail.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [BlindRUG] Reading output and easily understanding which number corresponds to what<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I am having a difficulty asking this question succinctly so I am pasting *<b>parts of my code</b>* and output below. I imagine this is an easy question for expert R users.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">> summary(out.lm)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Call:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">lm(formula = mathpre ~ collgpaa, data = scs)
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Residuals:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> Min 1Q Median 3Q Max<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">-6.0465 -1.9008 -0.0637 1.8426 6.6097 <o:p>
</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Coefficients:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(>|t|)
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">(Intercept) 3.4122 0.7581 4.501 1.13e-05
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">***<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">collgpaa 1.0384 0.2655 3.912 0.000124
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">***<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">---<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Signif. codes: 0 '***' 0.001 '**' 0.01 '*' 0.05
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">'.' 0.1 ' ' 1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Residual standard error: 2.646 on 208 degrees of
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">freedom<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Multiple R-squared: 0.06852, Adjusted R-squared: 0.06405<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">F-statistic: 15.3 on 1 and 208 DF, p-value: 0.0001241<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">In the part of this output that shows coefficients, I can tell that estimate std error is 0.7581 and T-value is 4.501, by memorizing the placements of std error, t-value and Pr(>|t|). And knowing what kinds of number
to expect I guess could work in most cases I may run into.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I believe my sighted colleagues are able to easily place which number belongs to what by looking at how they are placed (4.501 directly underneath t value for example).
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Perhaps as I practice more, I will become more efficient over time but I am curious, is there a way I can make the process of reading the output and placing which number belongs to where more efficient for? E.g., having
this be displayed in a list format or table format that I can navigate cell by cell vertically?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thank you for your consideration and any suggestion you may be able to offer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Miso<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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