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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Seems Gary is having trouble posting to Blind RUG. He has just sent me a message which I have snipped and clipped.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">See two parts below…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><part 1 to me specifically, but now shared><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi. I did survive the cutbacks, but my full-time accessibility role was significantly scaled back.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Your answer is spot-on; even though RStudio is becoming somewhat accessible on a technical level, the overall UI design is such that I don't know that it will ever be pleasant or efficient to use via screen reader.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><Part 2 to everyone><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi, I'm the mentioned employee of Posit who is subscribed to this list.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Most of my time at work is no longer directly focused on accessibility. This is why I've been lurking. I don't want to make promises beyond what I can realistically deliver in my role.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Progress has been slow. Not zero, but slow. It's now in a place where RStudio is partially accessible to screen readers. However, usability for doing actual work via screen reader is still quite terrible (in my personal, non-scientific
opinion).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I usually make some accessibility fixes in each release of the RStudio IDE, so use the most recent release (2023.12.1) to try out screen-reader support.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Be aware that a "screen reader mode" needs to be enabled for some features to work. You should get an announcement when you start RStudio with a screen reader running, telling you if the mode is off and which keyboard shortcut to use to
enable it. Alt+Shift+/ on Windows. Once it's enabled, it will remain enabled for future sessions.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">For reading previous output in the Console, there is a command to set focus on the output region. On Windows, the shortcut is Alt+Shift+2, or alternatively, Ctrl+backtick (grave). To navigate this region once focused, you must switch the
screen reader to browse or virtual cursor mode. We've tried coding this to make that switch happen automatically, but last time I checked it wasn't working consistently. I'm aware of the accessibility features in Visual Studio Code, and certainly would love
to incorporate some of their ideas.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Some significant remaining issues, with links to github, include:<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><a href="https://github.com/rstudio/rstudio/issues/6167" target="_blank">autocomplete popups not announced by screen reader</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><a href="https://github.com/rstudio/rstudio/issues/6168" target="_blank">Console history popup not announced by screen reader</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><a href="https://github.com/rstudio/rstudio/issues/5652" target="_blank">keyboard focus not being well managed when showing different panes</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><a href="https://github.com/rstudio/rstudio/issues/7869" target="_blank">Command palette sluggish with JAWS screen reader</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]>a fundamentally busy and complex user interface<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This <a href="https://support.posit.co/hc/en-us/articles/360045612413-RStudio-Screen-Reader-Support" target="_blank">article on RStudio Screen Reader support</a> is still reasonably up-to-date.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Gary<o:p></o:p></p>
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