[Blindtlk] blindtlk Digest, Vol 42, Issue 22

Thu Dec 31 01:21:16 UTC 2009

I am one of those who does have perfect or absolute pitch.
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>   1. Re: needing insight re: the pitfalls of web design with a
>      screen reader (David Andrews)
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>   3. Re: absolute pitch (Marion & Martin)
>   4. Re: absolute pitch (Mike Freeman)
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> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 21:49:04 -0600
> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] needing insight re: the pitfalls of web design
> with a screen reader
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> I was trying to think of DreamWeaver I believe.
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> Dave
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> At 09:47 PM 12/22/2009, you wrote:
>>I used the wrong words -- was trying to think of the adobe gui-based
>>web pl\ublishing tool many people use.
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>At 10:59 PM 12/20/2009, you wrote:
>>>Hello Dave and listers,
>>>
>>>     Just a minor correction. ColdFusion itself is not a Web publishing 
>>> tool.
>>>It is a Web language that extends the capabilities of HTML to permit 
>>>various
>>>components to be included on Web sites and in applications built with it.
>>>Like HTML ColdFusion pages can be hand coded so there are no barriers to
>>>working with Adobe ColdFusion as a blind person. In fact I'll be putting 
>>>up
>>>several ColdFusion sites in the coming year. The Adobe Web production
>>>products do permit one to create sites using ColdFusion as the language 
>>>to
>>>be used. You specify this when you begin constructing a Web site using 
>>>these
>>>applications. Hope this clears up any confusion as to what ColdFusion is 
>>>and
>>>what it is not.
>>>
>>>Peter Donahue
>>>
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>>>From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>>>To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 5:59 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] needing insight re: the pitfalls of web design 
>>>with
>>>a screen reader
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>>>It depends on how they conduct the class.  If you hand code basic
>>>sites you shouldn't have any problems.  However, if they have you use
>>>a web publishing tool like cold fusion, front page, or something from
>>>adobe, it could be a problem -- depending on what they use.
>>>
>>>Dave
>>>
>>>At 07:52 AM 12/18/2009, you wrote:
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>>> >Hi Guys,
>>> >
>>> >I have just registered for my courses for next term, and one of the
>>> >pending classes is a course in web design.  As I am a computer user, 
>>> >and
>>> >not a programmer by any means, I am very nervous about this.
>>> >
>>> >I'm wondering if some of the more savvy users can tell me what hurdles 
>>> >I
>>> >can expect to run into with a screen reader, and whether there are any
>>> >of these that are nonnegotiable.
>>> >
>>> >Hope this makes sense.  Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
>>> >
>>> >Thanks!
>>> >
>>> >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 00:55:46 -0600 (CST)
> From: kishia.mason at gmail.com
> Subject: [Blindtlk] absolute pitch
> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
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> Goes anyone have a theory as to why many blind people have perfect pitch?
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> Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 08:43:21 -0500
> From: "Marion & Martin" <swampfox1833 at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] absolute pitch
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> Kishia,
>    I guess the theory as to why many blind people have absolute pitch 
> might
> also be considered as "Why to some people have absolute pitch?" I'm not 
> sure
> if there are any reliable studies that indicate blind people have a higher
> incidence of absolute pitch than those who are sighted. Do you know of any
> such studies? If so, please share them.
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion
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>> Goes anyone have a theory as to why many blind people have perfect pitch?
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> Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 08:43:08 -0800
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] absolute pitch
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> I don't think it has anything to do with blindness per se; there are 
> plenty
> of sighted people who also have "perfect pitch". Many more (both blind and
> sighted) have "relative pitch", that is, if given a note, they can sing 
> the
> notes of a diatonic or pentatonic scale based upon that note with decent
> accuracy; this is often more useful, especially when singing in choral
> groups, than "absolute" or "perfect" pitch.
>
> I think possession of the ability has more to do with musicality and 
> ability
> with mathematics than it has to do with visual acuity. the most tone-deaf
> person I've ever known was a blind fellow.
>
> In any event, we must be careful to note that what we're dealing with here
> is the ability to reproduce or recognize a note of a given frequency 
> rather
> than what sol-fa note it is because this has as much to do with the tuning
> system used as it has to do with any so-called perfect scale.
>
> Mike Freeman
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>> Goes anyone have a theory as to why many blind people have perfect pitch?
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