[Blindtlk] should blind people go barefoot?

gloria fairyfoot at webband.com
Thu Jun 18 03:48:51 UTC 2009 

Connie,

I couldn't of said it better! Good for you! 


Gloria Whipple
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-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Constance Canode
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 5:46 PM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] should blind people go barefoot?

Jeff,

I don't know you personally, will probably never meet you, and I cannot
begin to tell you what incredible joy that brings me.  When you used the
word "crap" in your post, that is a perfect description of your attitude.  I
know I am going to hear about what I just said from people on the list and
probably the list owner, but so be it.  I am barefoot in my own home all the
time, am not a stupid, uncoordinated or clumsy person.  How dare you to be
so presumtuous about other blind people, and yes, I probably spelled that
word wrong.

Connie Canode
At 06:09 PM 6/17/2009, you wrote:
>Hello Jeff. Yes, we only discuss this kind of thing when you are at 
>work, because we know under your supervision it would never be 
>tolerated. Let me point out, if I may, that not all blind people are 
>diabetics, that not all blind people stub their toes when they go 
>barefooted in the familiar surroundings of their home, and that some of 
>us do find that the ability to feel with our feet is of tremendous 
>importance when doing things such as vacuuming, mopping, and, 
>incidentally, looking for dropped change. It is not as simple as saying 
>that anyone with brains wears shoes, and anyone who is blind is 
>necessarily stupid if they don't. Get a grip!
>
>Gary
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Schwartz" 
><sidney.schwartz at sbcglobal.net>
>To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:15 PM
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] should blind people go barefoot?
>
>
>>Is this the kind of crap you folks discuss when I'm at work.  I would 
>>say yes, if you happen to be blind and stupid.  In the house there is the
>>problem of toe stubbing, etc.    Outside, who knows what kind of
disgusting
>>or dangerous thing you can step on or into.  At the beech, along the 
>>water line is nice.  Then there is the high correlation  between 
>>diabetes and blindness from diabetic retinopathy.  People with diabetes
have neuropathy.
>>They lose the feelings in their extremities, like feet.  Also they 
>>don't heal well.  I had a patient who, in his home, barefoot, he 
>>stepped on a nail.  It was in his foot and became infected after  a 
>>week or so.  As a consequence he lost his leg.  That must have given him a
feeling of freedom.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>On Behalf Of Ron Poire
>>Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 2:38 PM
>>To: Ray Foret jr; Blind Talk Mailing List
>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] should blind people go barefoot?
>>
>>Hi all,
>>I like going barefoot in my own home.
>>I never thought about mopping the floor or vacuuming barefoot.  I 
>>would be afraid of stubbing my toe on something, which would ruin the 
>>whole pleasurable experience.
>>I would definitely not go barefoot in a public place, because of 
>>diseases and toe stubbing.  Not to mention national convention, where 
>>one's feet are quite vulnerable to people's canes and sniffing dogs.
>>It's a great comic discussion, on a par with walking barefoot in the
woods.
>>
>>Ron Poire
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret jr" 
>><rforetjr at comcast.net>
>>To: "Gary Wunder" <gwunder at earthlink.net>; "Blind Talk Mailing List"
>><blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:19 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] should blind people go barefoot?
>>
>>
>>>Especially when the floors are all completely smooth tile, as they 
>>>are in my new place.
>>>
>>>Sincerely,
>>>The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray
>>>
>>>"Old friend, what are you looking for?  After those many years abroad 
>>>you come With images you tended Under foreign skies Far away from 
>>>your own land"
>>>George Seferis
>>>
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>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Wunder" 
>>><gwunder at earthlink.net>
>>>To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 7:43 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] should blind people go barefoot?
>>>
>>>
>>>Vacuuming and mopping are much easier because it is easy for one to 
>>>see his/her work.
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen Millhoff" 
>>><kmillhoff at gmail.com>
>>>To: "Ray Foret jr" <rforetjr at comcast.net>; "Blind Talk Mailing List"
>>><blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 7:31 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] should blind people go barefoot?
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi, you could have Robert make a TP out of this; and, yes, you 
>>>>haven't asked this question for quite some time. I would bet that 
>>>>the additional tactile and vestibular info offered by bare feet is 
>>>>valuable to blind people. to say nothing of the fact that shoes 
>>>>carry some pretty yucky stuff into the house. You should move to the 
>>>>islands where people wear shoes when necessary, but mostly are 
>>>>barefoot inside and wearing zoris (what you guys call flip-flops) 
>>>>outside. (some folks also call them slippers, but they're not the 
>>>>bedroom slipper kind). I seldom find shoes that work well for me, 
>>>>and this includes Berkies and the rest.
>>>>also, it's always summer here I'm glad to say.
>>>>best,
>>>>kat
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On 6/17/09, Ray Foret jr <rforetjr at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>With summer practically upon us?  I just thought I'd  throw this 
>>>>>out there.
>>>>>Should blind people go barefoot; either inside or outside?  It's 
>>>>>been a couple or three years since somebody else broached the 
>>>>>subject; and so, I just thought I'd get the general opinions out 
>>>>>there.  Can it be tied in to blindness in any way?  IF so, why?  IF 
>>>>>not, why?
>>>>>
>>>>>Ray
>>>>>
>>>>>
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