[Blindtlk] Observation: Please stop unnecessary threads

[Mike Freeman]

All:

Having helped Dave for many years with list administration, I think the 
following is a fair approximation of the truth:

(1) There will be threads that some of us consider irrelevant while 
others consider them worth discussion. Put another way: one person's 
necessity is another's frivolity. What any of the rest of us thinks is 
unlikely to change the mind of the person who starts the thread: debates 
are usually only won in debate meets!

(2) It therefore follows that while comments stating one's position on 
the topic are in order, gratuitous comments which say much more than 
one's position or opining on the character, lineage, intent or moral 
fiber of the thread initiator will do little more than irritate everyone 
else including the person who started the thread. Such comments 
therefore waste energy and Net bandwidth and are, therefore, best 
avoided.

(3) It follows from the above that the only person who should make 
decisions regarding list conduct and who should publicly comment on the 
relevance of threads or carry out list discipline is either the list 
moderator or the list administrator. Comments (either pro or con) which 
go beyond simple, reasoned, honest discussion is, at best, 
counterproductive, yielding far more heat than light and, at worst, 
contributes to the problem.

Given the foregoing, I earnestly entreat *everyone* to let the thread 
(including remarks about anyone who commented on it) die an unnatural 
death and refrain from contributing to the problem of this or any other 
thread in the future. This does not mean one shouldn't participate in 
lively discussions. It does mean that we close ranks and let Dave 
Andrews do his job!

Short and sweet: ENOUGH ALREADY!

Mike Freman, who used to administer a bunch of lists for Dave

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sarah Baughn" <sarahb006 at comcast.net>
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Observation: Please stop unnecessary threads


Eric, with all due respect, Ray wasn't trying to disrespect anyone, he 
was
just asking a lighthearted question, and I don't think that the subject 
was
irrelevant to blindness, it was that Schwartz character who started 
trouble.
Please keep your mouth off of Ray, if you would.  Thanks.
Sarah
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eric Calhoun" <eric at pmpmail.com>
To: <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:26 PM
Subject: [Blindtlk] Observation: Please stop unnecessary threads


> On a more happier note, I really enjoy all of your posts.  Dave, sir, 
> I
> wish that I were moderator of some lists like the ones on nfbnet.org. 
> I'm
> working on getting a new computer to do that.  What special keys do I 
> use
> to ban an offensive poster?  Are there any "do's" or "don'ts" I should
> know
> about?
>
> Just so you know: the "Should blind people go barefoot?" thread is
> trivial, and I agree with you, Gloria.  It's like a thread asking the
> question: "Should blind females wear high heels?" or, "Should blind
> females
> wear heels?"  People who start trouble like that don't need to be on 
> lists
> like this; it's a matter of personal preference.  When people 
> disrespect
> others, someone has to step in, and say: "Hold everything!  Please 
> stop
> this thread!"  Thank you, Mr. Andrews, sir!  You hit the ball out of 
> the
> ballpark!
>
> Eric
> --
>
> --
>
> Eric from Los Angeles with a tip for you!:  Want your baseball fix? 
> Want
> it when you need it? Then the baseball list is just what the doctor
> ordered!  Send a message, please, to eric at pmpmail.com, and put, "Eric, 
> I
> would like to join your baseball list," in the subject line.
>
>
>
> Not your average, cooky-cutter baseball list!  Major-League Baseball!
> Minor-League Baseball!  Independent Minor-League Baseball!  It's the
> ultimate!  It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of 
> the
> fight in the dog!
>


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