[Blindtlk] how many of you have been oncruises andwhatwasyourexperience?

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Graves, Diane" <dgraves at icrc.IN.gov>
To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] how many of you have been oncruises 
andwhatwasyourexperience?

> Hey Chasstity,
>
> Oh, yes, the guidedogs are always a good ice breaker. Maybe if your 
> guidedog knows him, he'll help you out as well.  (now don't get mad at me 
> guidedog users.) LOL I do know that the user, not the animal, is in 
> control. But I have also seen guidedogs gravitate towards those people 
> that they like or find interesting.
>
> I have thought of a dog several times myself. There are just so many pros 
> and cons to weigh, and so I still hang on to my cane and haven't taken the 
> plunge. What kind of dog do you have?
>
> Now this brings up an interesting question. Forgive me if I sound 
> ignorant, I don't mean too. But when you go on a cruise with a dog, how do 
> you handle the relief issue?
>
> Just curious.
>
>
> Diane Graves
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> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Chasity Jackson
> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 2:54 PM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] how many of you have been oncruises andwhatwas 
> yourexperience?
>
> Hey Diane,
>
> Thanks for the compliment about my spunk. It made me smile. I'm glad that
> you admitted that if it were a Tyler Perry cruise, you'd be wondering the
> same thing. Glad I'm not alone on that issue. LOL. Thank you for all your
> suggestions! I have thought about pairing up with people. Yes, I have many
> Kid Rock fans on my facebook who are going on the cruise...And I have
> already discussed going with one of them. I am going with another person,
> but he too is blind. So I think I definitely will take your suggestion and
> hang with people who can spot him for me. I hear you about watching for
> complete strangers. I roomed with two ladies I didn't know very well at a
> Kid Rock show in New Jersey, and it was a complete disaster. I wouldn't do
> that again if my life depended on it! LOL.
>
> I will also take David's suggestion and let him know that I won't know 
> he's
> there unless he says something. I know on this past cruise, this past 
> April,
> everyone got to take a picture with him when they got on board. So that
> would be an ample opportunity to let him know. I have been going to his
> shows for 9 years, and always sit in the front row when I go, so I know he
> recognizes me, and we have met, so he already knows I'm blind. But I think
> it would still be good to point out to him, to emphasize that I won't know
> he's there unless he says something to me. I think it will be in my favor
> that I will have my guide dog with me too.
> I will write you off list to talk more about things you mentioned about 
> your
> own interest, that I'm curious about. I don't want to get too off topic 
> here
> on the list. LOL.
>
> Thanks again for your message. I'm glad that you ended up responding.
> Chasity
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Graves, Diane" <dgraves at icrc.IN.gov>
> To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 12:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] how many of you have been oncruises andwhatwas
> yourexperience?
>
>
> > Chastity,
> >
> > You go girl! I can't say that I'm into Kid rock myself, but if it were a
> > Tyler Perry cruise, I'd be wondering the same thing. I didn't really 
> > know
> > how to respond, so I wasn't going to, but I like your spunk, so I'm 
> > going
> > to throw out a couple of suggestions for whatever they are worth.
> >
> > Are you going all by yourself? I don't know how extroverted you are, I'm
> > not at all, but if you are an outgoing person, maybe you could "buddy 
> > up"
> > with another passenger who would tell you when they spot him. You'll 
> > want
> > to be careful about strangers, of course, but that might be one option.
> >
> > Another might be to let a waiter or activities director or someone like
> > that know that you'd like a chance to talk with him, and maybe they can
> > "put a bug in his ear
> > " Once  he realizes that you are there, that you are a fan, and that you
> > are blind, he'll probably make it a point to address you when he sees 
> > you.
> >
> > Just a few thoughts for whatever they are worth.
> >
> >
> >
> > Diane Graves
> > Civil Rights Specialist
> > Indiana Civil Rights Commission
> > Alternative Dispute Resolutions Unit
> > 317-232-2647
> >
> > "It is service that measures success."
> > George Washington Carver
> >
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> > On
> > Behalf Of cheryl echevarria
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 1:27 PM
> > To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] how many of you have been on cruises andwhatwas
> > your experience?
> >
> > Again, as stated each cruise offer e-documents now, no one mails 
> > documents
> > any longer.
> >
> > Also, as mentioned and I am a professional Travel Agent, who is also
> > blind,
> > and we are here to help each other, whether giving advice or not.
> >
> > If I sound like a psychiatrist it was out of concern for the not really
> > want
> > to enjoy your trip but to get to see Kid Rock.
> >
> > All information give is current and up to date, especially since I am a
> > certified specialist and have taken all of the individual cruise line
> > training including e-documents, what goes on when luggage is taken and 
> > put
> > on a cruise.
> >
> > I wouldn't be a good person to not make an impression on the situation 
> > to
> > possibly help, it came out wrong and I am sorry about.
> >
> >
> > The biggest compliment you can pay me is to recommend my services!
> >
> > Cheryl Echevarria
> > Independent Travel Consultant
> > C10-10646
> >
> > http://Echevarriatravel.com
> > 1-866-580-5574
> > skype: angeldn3
> >
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> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chasity Jackson" <chasityvanda at charter.net>
> > To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 12:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] how many of you have been on cruises andwhatwas
> > your
> > experience?
> >
> >
> >> Hi David,
> >>
> >> I really wanted to thank you for your helpful message. That's true. It 
> >> is
> >> a
> >> closed environment.
> >>
> >> The reason I even asked the question that I did, although it might 
> >> sound
> >> odd, is actually because he was out most of the time, socializing and
> >> interacting with people. There were people who had been on other artist
> >> related cruises, and they all concurred that he went above and beyond,
> >> and
> >> was out an unusual amount more than most artists. So it just simply
> >> concerned me that I may not have as many opportunities to spot him as
> >> others
> >> with sight do, and I just wanted to bring it up to see what others
> >> thought.
> >> That's all.
> >>
> >> Thanks for the heads up about luggage tags. I will call much closer to
> >> the
> >> time of the cruise and inquire as to how that works with this 
> >> particular
> >> cruise.
> >>
> >> You and others have been very helpful, and keep the ideas and 
> >> information
> >> coming. I hope that you enjoy your next cruise! Feel free to write me 
> >> off
> >> list and let me know about it.
> >> Chasity
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Hyde, David W. (ESC)" <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us>
> >> To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 11:00 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] how many of you have been on cruises and 
> >> whatwas
> >> your experience?
> >>
> >>
> >> > If this is a Kid Rock Cruise (who ever hi (I guess it's a he) is) 
> >> > (no,
> >> > don't tell me, I'm happy in my ignorance) there will probably be a
> >> > reception. Be pro-active. When you meet him, gently remind him that 
> >> > if
> >> > he
> >> > doesn't speak to you, you won't know he's there. Because this is a
> >> > closed
> >> > environment, he can't get away from you entirely. Please remember 
> >> > that
> >> > he,
> >> > like all of us, likes to get away from people too, and although he is
> >> > on
> >> > the cruise, and probably being paid, he's going to want to get away
> >> > from
> >> > all you admiring fans.
> >> >
> >> > Now about luggage. You will probably either get in the mail, or print
> >> > out
> >> > luggage tags for your bags. Mine were in the cabin when I got there 
> >> > the
> >> > first time, and arrived with me the second. We came on board around
> >> > 1:00,
> >> > and, since they were cleaning cabins, we kept our bags with us. On 
> >> > the
> >> > first cruise (western Caribbean) our bags were all taken to customs,
> >> > and
> >> > we had to hunt them. On the second, we took our bags off ourselves. 
> >> > If
> >> > you
> >> > can, I highly recommend this practice.
> >> >
> >> > Next cruise is over Christmas. Some friends and we are going out of 
> >> > New
> >> > Orleans to Casamel, and then the Bahamas. My wife thinks that it's 
> >> > the
> >> > only way to take a vacation.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
> >> > [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >> > On
> >> > Behalf Of Chasity Jackson
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 10:41 AM
> >> > To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> >> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] how many of you have been on cruises and what
> >> > was
> >> > your experience?
> >> >
> >> > David,
> >> > That's great you have been on two and are preparing for your third. I
> >> > hear
> >> > you about the expense of the excursions. To be perfectly honest with
> >> > you,
> >> > I'm sure I will find an exciting excursion and I'll love it, but I am
> >> > not
> >> > going on this cruise because I want to be in Cozumel. I couldn't care
> >> > less
> >> > if the boat just went in circles. LOL. I am just going because it is 
> >> > a
> >> > Kid
> >> > Rock cruise, and Kid Rock will be on the boat the entire time. He 
> >> > walks
> >> > around the boat the entire time like a regular every day person,
> >> > available
> >> > to chat with folks.
> >> >
> >> > One thing that concerns me is that because I can't see him, that my
> >> > opportunities to walk up to him or talk to him will be less than the
> >> > opportunities of other people who can see where he is. I have met him
> >> > already over the years, but I love any opportunity to talk to him, 
> >> > and
> >> > I
> >> > worry about how I will find him, or perhaps not finding him at all on
> >> > the
> >> > cruise. I'm not your typical go with the flow type of girl either. 
> >> > LOL.
> >> > I
> >> > already know I'll be ancy and searching him out during the entire
> >> > cruise.
> >> > I just want my opportunities to have daily encounters and chats with
> >> > him
> >> > to be equal to that of others who said they saw or chatted with him
> >> > multiple times, and I worry that because I won't see him, in that 
> >> > type
> >> > of
> >> > environment,  that I won't know where he is.
> >> >
> >> > David, how long did it take you to get your suitcase? Did you have
> >> > trouble
> >> > with suitcases getting lost or anything like that? How long after you
> >> > boarded the ship did you get your luggage?
> >> >
> >> > I'm glad to know people's concerns about taking private buses, and am
> >> > glad
> >> > to be informed about the experiences others have had in the past with
> >> > this.
> >> >
> >> > Where is your third cruise going and how long of a cruise is it?
> >> >
> >> > Glad to know that waiters and waitresses are helpful about reading 
> >> > the
> >> > menu.
> >> > And thank you for the suggestion about having someone read the daily
> >> > events that will occur. I had no idea about that. Thanks for pointing
> >> > that
> >> > out to me. Learning things like that makes me glad I posted on this
> >> > list
> >> > too, to hear from others about cruises in general, and not just the
> >> > guide
> >> > dog list about guide dog issues.
> >> >
> >> > Feel free to tell me more as you think of anything else. Thanks a lot
> >> > for
> >> > informing me about everything.
> >> > Chasity
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Hyde, David W. (ESC)" <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us>
> >> > To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 8:14 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] how many of you have been on cruises and what
> >> > was
> >> > your experience?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> My wife and I have done two, and getting ready for a third. I had
> >> >> absolutely no problems. Waiters are more than willing to read menus.
> >> >> You may want to have someone read the daily paper that comes out
> >> >> giving information about activities. The contests, like trivia 
> >> >> dealing
> >> >> with sports etc. were not accessible, but I found people more than
> >> >> willing to read them if asked. As Cheryl said, shore excursions are
> >> >> expensive. We did them on the first cruise (Caribbean) and not on 
> >> >> the
> >> >> second (Mexico.) We had just as much fun grabbing a bus or a cab 
> >> >> from
> >> >> the peer and going down town and exploring. Forget carnival rides, a
> >> >> bus in Porta Viarta is an experience.
> >> >>
> >> >> The last one we went on was a Carnival cruise, as is the next one.
> >> >> They were very relaxed, always something going on, great activities
> >> >> for children. Just remember that tourists are merely mobile devices
> >> >> for dispensing money to locals, and enjoy.
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
> >> >> [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >> >> On Behalf Of Chasity Jackson
> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 4:27 PM
> >> >> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> >> >> Subject: [Blindtlk] how many of you have been on cruises and what 
> >> >> was
> >> >> your experience?
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi listers. I was just wondering how many of you have been on 
> >> >> cruises,
> >> >> and what your experience has been in general when on board and 
> >> >> ashore?
> >> >> My friend Terry and I are going on a cruise next April 7 through the
> >> >> 11, with rock star Kid Rock, who I have been following from state to
> >> >> state for the last 9 years. It is a four day cruise that leaves from
> >> >> New Orleans and goes to Cozumel. Cozumel is our only port of call. 
> >> >> The
> >> >> cruise is put on through Sixthman but the ship is provided by
> >> >> Carnival. The ship name is the Triumph. It is their largest ship. I
> >> >> was just wondering if others have been on that particular ship for
> >> >> other cruises in the past. If so, did you have trouble navigating it
> >> >> or did you find it relatively easy? When you disembarked from the 
> >> >> ship
> >> >> and went sightseeing at your port of call, did you choose to take 
> >> >> one
> >> >> of the excursions they offered and go with a group, or did you make
> >> >> other plans? How did you find your experiences traveling in another
> >> >> country? I have never been on a cruise, let alone overseas period. 
> >> >> So
> >> >> I'm just taking these 8 months before the cruise and doing research,
> >> >> getting all my ducks in a row, so to speak. And I just thought it
> >> >> would
> >> >> be nice to get as many experiences and perspectives as possible.
> >> >> I asked about cruises on the guide dog list, but that was simply to
> >> >> get the perspective of a guide dog owner, to see if there were any
> >> >> difficulties, etc. So now I am asking in general how many of you 
> >> >> have
> >> >> been on cruises and what your experiences were, just to get a 
> >> >> general
> >> >> idea, to hear others' viewpoints and to perhaps learn things I have
> >> >> not yet thought about.
> >> >>
> >> >> I recently received a 90 something page booklet from Carnival
> >> >> detailing things that sailors should know before they cruise, which 
> >> >> I
> >> >> found very helpful. So I just thought I'd pose this question and see
> >> >> what other people have experienced.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks.
> >> >> Chasity
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