[Blindtlk] Grilling question

Wed Aug 25 15:02:38 UTC 2010

Gary,
Your words are encouraging to me as well even though i have been blind since 
i was 8 years old, NFB, which is new to me, is encouraging and all the folks 
i have  met so far have been amazingly encouraging and helpful.
I have raised three teen agers and managed a home for years but still have 
moments of fear and discouragement. I habve been a single momfor three years 
and i think living on my own with the kids after 18 years  of marriage to a 
sighted man  has been one of the most frightening but rewarding times in my 
life. I have truly learned how gracious the Lord is and how much i ca ndo 
through his strength. Jeanette
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Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grilling question


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bonnie Lucas
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 10:34 AM
> To: gwunder at earthlink.net; 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grilling question
>
> I just love your kind, genuine and loving responses that you give to 
> people.
> Keep adding your tidbits because I am certain that those who read them are
> greatly benefitted.
> Bonnie Lucas
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Gary Wunder
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 8:44 AM
> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grilling question
>
> Hi Mari. I think the way most of us get over the ups and downs is by 
> living
> with them so long that they go away, or mostly so. I think there are times
> when everyone of us goes through a day when we say "man, I wish the
> transportation system were better for blind people. What a bummer it is 
> not
> to be able to drive my own car!" For many of us, however, we've simply
> learned to plan, to work out arrangements where we pay people to do things
> we can't do or trade them volunteer activities so that what we need gets
> done. It isn't always easy, and it certainly isn't intuitive. It is
> something one has to learn, and sometimes it means that we who are blind 
> or
> less spontaneous about things we do. If, for example, you are going to use
> the pear transit system. You won't decide today at two o'clock that you 
> are
> going to the mall and be there by 3:30. You will decide today that you 
> would
> like to go to the mall, and you will go there sometime tomorrow. If you 
> get
> a stack of mail and don't happen to have technology that will let you 
> easily
> read it, you put it in a mail basket and you wait for your weekly visit 
> from
> someone who can sort through it and help you make appropriate responses.
> These things won't seem normal at first, but they will over time, and they
> are techniques which have been shown to work.
>
> If you can arrange it, I think going to an NFB center is a splendid idea.
> You will learn many techniques, but more importantly you will learn a
> different way to think about being blind. I think it is a stretch to say
> that I think of blindness as a blessing, but it is no exaggeration to look
> at my life and admit that though blindness has cost me some opportunities,
> it has also given me some. It has limited some of my decisions and has 
> made
> others possible. I don't know if I would have gone to college were it not
> for the vocational rehabilitation program that offered to pay every red 
> cent
> that it took to get me through school. I doubt that I would have the 
> current
> job I have, or probably even the jobs before it. Most likely I would have
> followed in the footsteps of my father who ran a successful excavating and
> construction business, and who knows where I would be now. I might be
> substantially better off based on thirty-five years of building a quality
> business, or I might be suffering through the significant recession which
> now finds many people in the construction industry out of work and 
> fighting
> to keep their own homes.
>
> I think the key to being happy is captured, at least to some degree, in 
> the
> words of the serenity prayer, and then having the humility to be thankful
> for what one has. Maybe if I could write all of the specifications God 
> used
> before placing me on the earth, I'd have designed a human being with the
> brains of Bill Gates, the looks of Brad Pitt, and the sincerity of Jimmy
> Stewart. As it is, God did the designing, so I'll just do my best to be 
> Gary
> Wunder.
>
> It is very nice to meet you, Mari, and you'll make it through this
> transition just fine. You have brains and a good heart. Those two assets 
> are
> golden.
>
> Gary
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Mari Hunziker
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 6:13 PM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grilling question
>
> Thank you so much for sharing that Mike. I would love to learn more about
> the NFB centers. I am now needing more assistance in finding creative ways
> of finding transportation for my son to get to and from school each day. 
> Not
> being able to drive or to do other things is a constant struggle. I wish
> there was someway to get over the emotional roller coaster I ride every 
> day.
> Some days thinking its a blessing to be blind and other days it is a 
> curse.
> How have you all gotten over this?
> Thanks,
> Mari Hunziker
>
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
>
>> As a matter of fact, one of the things done at our NFB centers is to
>> do some grilling and other chores that involve working with fire
>> precisely to get people over their fear of being burned. It's not
>> thatanyone wishes to be burned but (a) blindness doesn't increase
>> one's risks assuming one is careful and (b) we want to turn that fear
>> into what might be termed healthy respect for fire which still allows
>> one to work with it. At the end of the day, it becomes another lesson
>> that blindness need not prevent us from leading normal lives.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 1:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grilling question
>>
>>
>>  A totally blind person can grill or smoke.  i have a gas grill, and a
>>> large off-set smoker and use them regularly.  I have also grilled
>>> with charcoal -- although the gas grill is easier.
>>>
>>> There are lots of techniques to do stuff.  One good source is our
>>> blind cooks list
>>>
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-cooks_nfbnet.org
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> p.s.  You mentioned a "fear of getting burned."  Just like with an
>>> oven, a pot of boiling water, a gas stove etc., you can get burned if
>>> you don't do stuff carefully and correctly, but like with the other
>>> things there are ways.
>>>
>>>
>>> At 08:42 AM 8/24/2010, you wrote:
>>>
>>>> Was anyone of you grillers afraid of the fire and the potential for
>>>> getting burned. That is what keeps me from doing it. We have a
>>>> charcoal grill/smoker. My brother, father and husband have mastered
>>>> the great taste of grilled food. I have always thought that I could
>>>> not grill or do things of that nature because I am blind(visually
>>>> impaired). I now think it might just be a fear of getting burned. I
>>>> do cook fairly well in doors, I never thought about trying it
>>>> outdoors. The next time we grill out. I will have to pay more
>>>> attention on how it is done so that I may someday try it. Who knows,
>>>> I may like doing it.
>>>>
>>>
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