[Blindtlk] new to list/blogging

[Jewel S.]

To learn about blogs and blogging, I read the APH book on the subject.
I think it's called Blog.com and Beyond? Anyone know the book I'm
talking about? I borrowed it from the local library for the blind. It
gave me great step by step for reading and writing blogs.

As for a site to start a blog on, I prefer Blogger.com. The only
access issue I came across since they fixed the inaccessible buttons
for putting add-ons on the site is the capcha for messages in response
to blogs, which can be turned off, but watch out for spam as your blog
gets a bit more popular...I've started seeing spam on mine, and it can
be a pain to figure out how to delete it, though I know it can be
done, because I have done it once.

If anyone knows the book I'm talking about, post the information for
it? I know it's available from APH. They also wrote Braille.com and
Beyond (which I think I'm confusing with this one) and Finding E-books
Online. These are good simple books that are great for people looking
for basic instructions on access issues and finding alternative ways
on-line.

On 8/27/10, Alan <awheeler at neb.rr.com> wrote:
> Try Live Journal at www.livejournal.com and see if you like it. I find it
> tends to be a lot friendlier to screen readers.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sally Friedman" <sfriedman2 at nycap.rr.com>
> To: <gwunder at earthlink.net>; "'Blind Talk Mailing List'"
> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>; "'Jeanette Fortin'" <jeanette at fortin-home.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 3:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] new to list/blogging
>
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I'm relatively new to the list and, first, I just wanted to say thank you:
>> I really appreciate the many concrete suggestions that come across on this
>> list as well as the deep honesty of many of these posts.
>>
>> My concrete question of the moment is advice about setting up a blog.  I
>> started this morning with some place called WordPress because I heard it
>> was
>> good.  But accessible?  Maybe not because a friend had to help me get it
>> started and just now when I tried to input a post Jaws seemed to be
>> reading
>> words already on the screen the same time it was reading what I was trying
>> to write.  Confusing!
>>
>> A better way to do this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sally Friedman
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Gary Wunder
>> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 12:57 PM
>> To: 'Jeanette Fortin'; 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grilling question
>>
>> Hi Jeanette. I am so glad to hear you say that support you have gotten
>> from
>> the NFB is helping you cope with the upsetting changes in your life.
>> Little
>> notes like yours give those of us who volunteer our time and energy to
>> maintain the organization a compelling reason to work harder, keep
>> sharing,
>> and transmit the love and concern we feel for you and others who are
>> blind.
>> Being a friend, advisor, and confidant are all important things we do, and
>> sometimes they are overshadowed by the arguments and conflicts which all
>> too
>> often crop up in organizations, and especially on e-mail lists. It is
>> refreshing to know that once in a while our real message and mission come
>> clear. Thank you for this affirmation, and thank you also for keeping us
>> all
>> focused on the real objective of extending a hand of Hope to our fellow
>> travelers.
>>
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Jeanette Fortin
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 10:03 AM
>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grilling question
>>
>> Gary,
>> Your words are encouraging to me as well even though i have been blind
>> since
>> i was 8 years old, NFB, which is new to me, is encouraging and all the
>> folks
>> i have  met so far have been amazingly encouraging and helpful.
>> I have raised three teen agers and managed a home for years but still have
>> moments of fear and discouragement. I habve been a single momfor three
>> years
>> and i think living on my own with the kids after 18 years  of marriage to
>> a
>> sighted man  has been one of the most frightening but rewarding times in
>> my
>> life. I have truly learned how gracious the Lord is and how much i ca ndo
>> through his strength. Jeanette
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Graves, Diane" <dgraves at icrc.IN.gov>
>> To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 8:37 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grilling question
>>
>>
>>> I'll second that motion.
>>>
>>> Diane Graves
>>> Civil Rights Specialist
>>> Indiana Civil Rights Commission
>>> Alternative Dispute Resolutions Unit
>>> 317-232-2647
>>>
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Bonnie Lucas
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 10:34 AM
>>> To: gwunder at earthlink.net; 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grilling question
>>>
>>> I just love your kind, genuine and loving responses that you give to
>>> people.
>>> Keep adding your tidbits because I am certain that those who read them
>>> are greatly benefitted.
>>> Bonnie Lucas
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Gary Wunder
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 8:44 AM
>>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grilling question
>>>
>>> Hi Mari. I think the way most of us get over the ups and downs is by
>>> living with them so long that they go away, or mostly so. I think
>>> there are times when everyone of us goes through a day when we say
>>> "man, I wish the transportation system were better for blind people.
>>> What a bummer it is not to be able to drive my own car!" For many of
>>> us, however, we've simply learned to plan, to work out arrangements
>>> where we pay people to do things we can't do or trade them volunteer
>>> activities so that what we need gets done. It isn't always easy, and
>>> it certainly isn't intuitive. It is something one has to learn, and
>>> sometimes it means that we who are blind or less spontaneous about
>>> things we do. If, for example, you are going to use the pear transit
>>> system. You won't decide today at two o'clock that you are going to
>>> the mall and be there by 3:30. You will decide today that you would
>>> like to go to the mall, and you will go there sometime tomorrow. If
>>> you get a stack of mail and don't happen to have technology that will
>>> let you easily read it, you put it in a mail basket and you wait for
>>> your weekly visit from someone who can sort through it and help you
>>> make appropriate responses.
>>> These things won't seem normal at first, but they will over time, and
>>> they are techniques which have been shown to work.
>>>
>>> If you can arrange it, I think going to an NFB center is a splendid idea.
>>> You will learn many techniques, but more importantly you will learn a
>>> different way to think about being blind. I think it is a stretch to
>>> say that I think of blindness as a blessing, but it is no exaggeration
>>> to look at my life and admit that though blindness has cost me some
>>> opportunities, it has also given me some. It has limited some of my
>>> decisions and has made others possible. I don't know if I would have
>>> gone to college were it not for the vocational rehabilitation program
>>> that offered to pay every red cent that it took to get me through
>>> school. I doubt that I would have the current job I have, or probably
>>> even the jobs before it. Most likely I would have followed in the
>>> footsteps of my father who ran a successful excavating and
>>> construction business, and who knows where I would be now. I might be
>>> substantially better off based on thirty-five years of building a
>>> quality business, or I might be suffering through the significant
>>> recession which now finds many people in the construction industry out
>>> of work and fighting to keep their own homes.
>>>
>>> I think the key to being happy is captured, at least to some degree,
>>> in the words of the serenity prayer, and then having the humility to
>>> be thankful for what one has. Maybe if I could write all of the
>>> specifications God used before placing me on the earth, I'd have
>>> designed a human being with the brains of Bill Gates, the looks of
>>> Brad Pitt, and the sincerity of Jimmy Stewart. As it is, God did the
>>> designing, so I'll just do my best to be Gary Wunder.
>>>
>>> It is very nice to meet you, Mari, and you'll make it through this
>>> transition just fine. You have brains and a good heart. Those two
>>> assets are golden.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Mari Hunziker
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 6:13 PM
>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grilling question
>>>
>>> Thank you so much for sharing that Mike. I would love to learn more
>>> about the NFB centers. I am now needing more assistance in finding
>>> creative ways of finding transportation for my son to get to and from
>> school each day.
>>> Not
>>> being able to drive or to do other things is a constant struggle. I
>>> wish there was someway to get over the emotional roller coaster I ride
>>> every day.
>>> Some days thinking its a blessing to be blind and other days it is a
>>> curse.
>>> How have you all gotten over this?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mari Hunziker
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> As a matter of fact, one of the things done at our NFB centers is to
>>>> do some grilling and other chores that involve working with fire
>>>> precisely to get people over their fear of being burned. It's not
>>>> thatanyone wishes to be burned but (a) blindness doesn't increase
>>>> one's risks assuming one is careful and (b) we want to turn that fear
>>>> into what might be termed healthy respect for fire which still allows
>>>> one to work with it. At the end of the day, it becomes another lesson
>>>> that blindness need not prevent us from leading normal lives.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Andrews"
>>>> <dandrews at visi.com>
>>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 1:22 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grilling question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  A totally blind person can grill or smoke.  i have a gas grill, and
>>>> a
>>>>> large off-set smoker and use them regularly.  I have also grilled
>>>>> with charcoal -- although the gas grill is easier.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are lots of techniques to do stuff.  One good source is our
>>>>> blind cooks list
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-cooks_nfbnet.org
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>> p.s.  You mentioned a "fear of getting burned."  Just like with an
>>>>> oven, a pot of boiling water, a gas stove etc., you can get burned
>>>>> if you don't do stuff carefully and correctly, but like with the
>>>>> other things there are ways.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At 08:42 AM 8/24/2010, you wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Was anyone of you grillers afraid of the fire and the potential for
>>>>>> getting burned. That is what keeps me from doing it. We have a
>>>>>> charcoal grill/smoker. My brother, father and husband have mastered
>>>>>> the great taste of grilled food. I have always thought that I could
>>>>>> not grill or do things of that nature because I am blind(visually
>>>>>> impaired). I now think it might just be a fear of getting burned. I
>>>>>> do cook fairly well in doors, I never thought about trying it
>>>>>> outdoors. The next time we grill out. I will have to pay more
>>>>>> attention on how it is done so that I may someday try it. Who
>>>>>> knows, I may like doing it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                        David Andrews:  dandrews at visi.com Follow me
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