[Blindtlk] Fwd: Article from Minneapolis Star-Tribune Science And Technology 2010 07 02

David Andrews dandrews at visi.com
Thu Jul 8 05:23:44 UTC 2010


Actually, technically, you both are 
wrong.  Because people speed all the time, or rob 
banks, or whatever, it doesn't make those acts 
right.  Yes, people violate copyright all the 
time, but they are still violations.

Dave

At 05:47 PM 7/7/2010, you wrote:
>Bottom line, people do it all the time. It's 
>just like downloading. That's copyright 
>infringement to, but they do it anyway. I've 
>seen hyde nor hare of rules about this though, & 
>for once, I'd say you're right, since you aren't 
>making any money off of it. Michelle On 7/7/10, 
>Dewey Bradley <dewey.bradley at att.net> wrote: > I 
>do forword articals to a friend because I know 
>they would enjoy it, I > really don't thing 
>about it. > Are you shore that doing that is 
>aginst the rules? > The stories are public. > I 
>thought that if you make money from it, then you 
>can't do that, but what's > the harm in sharing 
>a news story with a friend. > I'm not 
>questioning you, where is the rules posted so 
>that people can read > them? > I don't want to 
>rune this great service by no means what so 
>ever, But do you > really think that they really 
>care if we share something that is already > 
>been released? > good day to you! > ----- 
>Original Message ----- > From: "Jewel S." 
><herekittykat2 at gmail.com> > To: "Blind Talk 
>Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> > Sent: 
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>available on > their website. If it is available 
>online, you can copy *part* of the > article and 
>point people to the website. > > We must be very 
>careful about copyright infringement. By posting 
>this > article directly from NFB-Newsline, you 
>are breaking copyright laws. > This direct 
>e-mail service from Newsline is provided as a 
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>and motherly and all that, but please, > PLEASE 
>do not ruin this service for everyone else by 
>breaking the > rules. Yes, it is an interesting 
>article, but unless it is available > online, 
>you should simply say "Did anyone read 
>such-and-such article > from such-and-such 
>newspaper?" and go from there with a 
>summary. > > Let's not break the copyright laws, 
>please! > > ~Jewel > Treasure Chest for the 
>Blind > blindtreasurechest.blogspot.com > > On 
>7/4/10, Dewey Bradley <dewey.bradley at att.net> 
>wrote: >> This is neat. >> I just wonder how 
>this would work out in the country, Were I'm 
>from and >> were >> my stepdad still lives is 
>about a mile from the paved road, out where 
>cell >> phones don't work. >> That would be nice 
>to go home by my self, but going out in the 
>woods has a >> hole new set of challenges, like 
>potholes and animals. >> >> ----- Original 
>Message ----- >> From: "David Andrews" 
><dandrews at visi.com> >> To: 
><nfb-announce at nfbnet.org> >> Sent: Sunday, July 
>04, 2010 1:29 PM >> Subject: [Blindtlk] Fwd: 
>Article from Minneapolis Star-Tribune Science 
>And >> Technology 2010 07 02 >> >> >> >>>From: 
>NFB-NEWSLINE Online <nfbnewsline at nfb.org> >>>To: 
>David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> >>>Subject: 
>Article from Minneapolis Star-Tribune Science 
>And Technology 2010 >>>07 02 >>>Date: 
>Sun, >>>   4 Jul 2010 00:51:42 -0400 
>(EDT) >>> >>>That driver must be blind! Someday 
>he may be; group to show high-tech car >>>the 
>blind can drive     By KEN THOMAS ,  Associated 
>Press >>>WASHINGTON - Could a blind person drive 
>a car? Researchers are trying to >>>make that 
>far-fetched notion a reality. The National 
>Federation of the >>>Blind and Virginia Tech 
>plan to demonstrate a prototype vehicle next 
>year >>>equipped with technology that helps a 
>blind person drive a car >>>independently. The 
>technology, called "nonvisual interfaces," uses 
>sensors >>>to let a blind driver maneuver a car 
>based on information transmitted to >>>him about 
>his surroundings: whether another car or object 
>is nearby, in >>>front of him or in a 
>neighboring lane. Advocates for the blind 
>consider it >>>a "moon shot," a goal similar to 
>President John F. Kennedy's pledge 
>to >>>land >>> >>>a man on the moon. For many 
>blind people, driving a car long has 
>been >>>considered impossible. But researchers 
>hope the project 
>could >>>revolutionize >>> >>>mobility and 
>challenge long-held assumptions about 
>limitations. We're >>>exploring areas that have 
>previously been regarded as unexplorable," 
>said >>>Dr. Marc Maurer, president of the 
>National Federation of the Blind. 
>We're >>>moving away from the theory that 
>blindness ends the capacity of human >>>beings 
>to make contributions to society. The 
>Baltimore-based organization >>>was announcing 
>its plans for the vehicle demonstration at a 
>news >>>conference >>> >>>Friday in Daytona 
>Beach, Fla. Maurer first talked about building 
>an >>>automobile that the blind could drive 
>about a decade ago when he launched >>>the 
>organization's research institute. Some people 
>thought I was crazy and >>>they thought, 'Why do 
>you want us to raise money for something that 
>can't >>>be done? Others thought it was a great 
>idea," Maurer said. Some 
>people >>>were >>> >>>incredulous. Others 
>thought the idea was incredible. The vehicle has 
>its >>>roots in Virginia Tech's 2007 entry into 
>the DARPA Grand Challenge, a >>>competition for 
>driverless vehicles funded by the Defense 
>Department's >>>research arm. The university's 
>team won third place for a 
>self-driving >>>vehicle that used sensors to 
>perceive traffic, avoid crashing into 
>other >>>cars and objects and run like any other 
>vehicle. Following their success, >>>Virginia 
>Tech's team responded to a challenge from the 
>National Federation >>>of the Blind to help 
>build a car that could be driven by a blind 
>person. >>>Virginia Tech first created a dune 
>buggy as part of a feasibility study >>>that 
>used sensor lasers and cameras to act as the 
>eyes of the vehicle. A >>>vibrating vest was 
>used to direct the driver to speed up, slow down 
>or >>>make >>> >>>turns. The blind organization 
>was impressed by the results and urged 
>the >>>researchers to keep pushing. The results 
>will be demonstrated next January >>>on a 
>modified Ford Escape sport utility vehicle at 
>the Daytona >>>International Speedway before the 
>Rolex 24 race. The latest vehicle will >>>use 
>nonvisual interfaces to help a blind driver 
>operate the car. One >>>interface, called 
>DriveGrip, uses gloves with vibrating motors on 
>areas >>>that cover the knuckles. The vibrations 
>signal to the driver when and >>>where >>> >>>to 
>turn. Another interface, called AirPix, is a 
>tablet about half the size >>>of a sheet of 
>paper with multiple air holes, almost like those 
>found on an >>>air hockey game. Compressed air 
>coming out of the device helps inform 
>the >>>driver of his or her surroundings, 
>essentially creating a map of the >>>objects 
>around a vehicle. It would show whether there's 
>another vehicle in >>>a nearby lane or an 
>obstruction in the road. A blind person, who has 
>not >>>yet been chosen, will drive the vehicle 
>on a course near the famed Daytona >>>race track 
>and attempt to simulate a typical driving 
>experience. Dr. >>>Dennis >>> >>>Hong, a 
>mechanical engineering professor at Virginia 
>Tech who leads the >>>research, said the 
>technology could someday help a blind driver 
>operate a >>>vehicle but could also be used on 
>conventional vehicles to make them safer >>>or 
>on other applications. Advocates for the blind 
>say it will take time >>>before society accepts 
>the potential of blind drivers and that the 
>safety >>>of the technology will need to be 
>proven through years of testing. 
>But >>>more >>> >>>than anything, they say it's 
>part of a broader mission to change the 
>way >>>people perceive the blind. Mark 
>Riccobono, executive director of the 
>NFB's >>>Jernigan Institute, said when he walks 
>down the street with his 3-year-old >>>son, many 
>people might think he, as a blind person, is 
>being guided by his >>>son. The idea that a 
>3-year-old takes care of me stems from what 
>they >>>think >>> >>>about blindness," Riccobono 
>said. That will change when people see that 
>we >>>can do something that they thought was 
>impossible."   ___   Online: >>>National 
>Federation of the 
>Blind: 
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