[Blindtlk] Inferiority complex with disabilityvsnondisabledsociety

Wed Jun 2 23:06:06 UTC 2010

You need to take responsibility and move to areas where there is adequate 
public transportation!
Steve
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complex with 
disabilityvsnondisabledsociety


> If personal responsability was a mantra strong enough how come it is
> that blind people in particilar are not gainfully employed? Some areas
> don't facilitate transportation and I have been around virtually all
> types of blind people. There is a good number that can't get hired and
> private companies in particilar go against it  like Goergia Pacific or
> have halfway commitments like car plants. Then, government layoffs as
> well.
>    Another thing is that many legallly blind people post about an
> almost completely blind prospective. Perhaps some of this can be done.
> However, I've ran across plenty of blind people in my opinion that
> have people pick up after them. I mean that it's not as independent
> cause they don't want to be or people pity them too much. There are
> limitations even with the best accessability and acknowledging them is
> a good realistic approach. Then, my interests and dislikes and I've
> done that. I've researched these areas and what it boils down to is
> insecurity with being blind.
>    About my local NFB branch. Since Mike Jones has been away for a
> unknown set time to Hawaii to the last time I've heard that Auburn's
> NFB is nothing? It's mainly in bigger cities. How do you meet blind
> people then? The Program for Students with Disabilities isn't a social
> networking site unfortunately. It is okay via e-mail and I have ran
> into three blind people here just one has left and that is about it.
>    What would you do about choosing to change your major into
> something with more creativity or teaching that you won't be
> complained about doing cause they have already paid so much? Initially
> when I started college I wanted to be a lawyer but I realize they is a
> element of corruption and huge sin risks by word scrambling to suit
> your own agenda that I don't like at all. So, the psychology field,
> history and political science all weren't what I wanted. There is this
> initative to get math and science students at Auburn to do that stuff.
>    I have to take calculus 1 and or calculus 2 but I don't know
> neimith code. How logn do you think it could take someone with
> virtually no experience to learn the basics for that course? I might
> just get a tutor though and do it that way. If there is computer
> scientists on the list just e-mail me. I don't beleieve that blind
> people have to do all of this calculus information like some have
> fabricated though. Arrogance is hard to deal with supposedly
> successful blind people. I owuld like to own my own company!
> note: thanks to all of you
>
> On 6/2/10, Hyde, David W. (ESC) <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us> wrote:
>> Peter, I started to reply several times. Gary and Steve both make good
>> points. They said the things I wanted to say. Let me add that I know that 
>> I
>> wouldn't have had the type of encouragement I have had were it not for 
>> being
>> blind. I have had the boone of meeting more successful people than most, 
>> and
>> finding that they are willing to share their secrets (mostly hard work 
>> and
>> techniques that make sense once you learn them) with me. They then 
>> expected
>> me to pass them on to others. I have learned to try my best.
>>
>> You sound like a fellow who has a number of things going on at the same
>> time. Please don't try to solve them all at once. If you can prioritize 
>> your
>> needs (it's hard, but it is the only way to get them all down) and deal 
>> with
>> them one at a time, you can see some progress. I think the hardest thing 
>> for
>> me to learn, and to explain is that it is acceptable to fail. It doesn't
>> mean that you are less of a person. Everyone fails at something. I keep
>> trying new things, and I do some of them well, and some of them badly. 
>> It's
>> interesting to see which I learn the most from.
>>
>> Find some blind people who you like in your area. Find some who will 
>> teach
>> you the things that they do. None of us would have planed to be blind, 
>> had
>> we a choice. Since we didn't, some of us are happy, successful, and
>> satisfied with life anyway. As I write, I remember a book I recently read 
>> by
>> a fellow named Mike May. Mike now runs Sendero Group, doing GPS systems.
>> He's a nice guy, and I met him long before he was successful. The book is
>> called Crashing Through. I found it interesting in that Michael is a guy 
>> who
>> just never learned to fail. He failed until he found ways to succeed.
>>
>> Don't know if this helps or not. Please let us know how you're doing.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Dewey Bradley
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 1:40 PM
>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complex with
>> disabilityvsnondisabledsociety
>>
>> Garry makes some very good points indeed.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Graves, Diane" <dgraves at icrc.IN.gov>
>> To: "'Gary Wunder'" <gwunder at earthlink.net>; "'Blind Talk Mailing List'"
>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complex with
>> disabilityvsnondisabledsociety
>>
>>
>>> Peter,
>>>
>>> Gary makes some very good points here as well. It would simply be
>>> untrue for me to tell you that there are no advantages to being
>>> sighted, or disadvantages to being blind. Just as there are advantages
>>> to having money, v. not  having as much. If Bill Gates decides that he
>>> wants to order a pizza on a Friday night for dinner, he doesn't have
>>> to stop and think about whether or not he can afford it the way that I 
>>> do.
>>>
>>> The point is though, that there are ways around most of these things.
>>> We find those ways, most of them are not insurmountable,  and we lead
>>> productive and full lives.
>>>
>>>
>>> Diane Graves
>>> Civil Rights Specialist
>>> Indiana Civil Rights Commission
>>> Alternative Dispute Resolutions Unit
>>> 317-232-2647
>>>
>>> "It is service that measures success."
>>> George Washington Carver
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Gary Wunder
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:25 PM
>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complex with disability vs
>>> nondisabledsociety
>>>
>>> Peter, you have asked many questions and I am certain in one sitting I
>>> can't begin to response to them all. Even this assumes I know all the
>>> answers, which I most certainly do not.
>>>
>>> I throw out these ideas and observations with the suggestion that you
>>> take what you like and leave the rest. It does no good to compare
>>> yourself with what you might have been. In the first place, you don't
>>> know what you might have been. I might be angry because my Dad was the
>>> owner of a successful construction business which I could have run and
>>> might be far better off financially than I am now. Without sight, I
>>> can't run the heavy equipment so perhaps I should be angry. Because I
>>> am blind, I traveled a different road, went to college, got a degree,
>>> and work as a computer programmer. That college experience introduced
>>> me to good books, to different thoughts about the world, and to a
>>> tolerance of other people I'd never have gotten had I stayed at home.
>>> Which life is the better? Unfortunately this is a question without an
>>> answer. I have to make of my life what is possible, without spending
>>> too much time grieving about some alternative future.
>>> In your note you acknowledge a lot of problems. Acknowledging one has
>>> a problem is often the first step on the road to solving it, but
>>> sometimes that acknowledgement is simply a way of stating the problem
>>> and the more we state it, the more we come to like the way we say it.
>>> We grow accustomed to the burden of that problem, and rather than
>>> using our admission to solve it, we carry it like a badge of honor.
>>>
>>> In my own work, I can tell you that blineness makes many things hard
>>> which others find easy. They see computer screens and what is wanted
>>> from them is obvious. I hear computer screens and have to often work
>>> pretty hard to figure out what is wanted and where I am on the screen.
>>> I can make a real case for how disadvantaged this makes me, but the
>>> more important thing is that I figure it out and be productive enough
>>> I can bring home a pay check.
>>>
>>> You talk about the country in which you were born. There may be better
>>> countries in which to be blind, but I am certain the majority are worse.
>>> In
>>> your country you have the opportunity to make a contract with our 
>>> people.
>>> That contract says that we, all of us, will help you with training and
>>> equipment if, in return, you will try your hardest to take that
>>> equipment and training and put it to a productive use - preferably a
>>> use which will pay you. You will then pay taxes, buy a home, support
>>> your local businesses, not to mention Wal-Mart, and everyone wins.
>>> Winning isn't easy, but it is far easier than carrying around the
>>> anger for what you might have been if only you had tried.
>>>
>>> Take your anger and, if you can, turn it into resolve. Look at your
>>> situation, acknowledge there are disadvantages, and at the same time
>>> determine how you can benefit from where you find yourself. If you
>>> constantly live with the dream of driving the car you once had, you'll
>>> be disappointed. If you live with the dream of the dcar which may come
>>> to be if we who are blind work together, then your sadness may just
>>> become a tool for hope.
>>>
>>> I wish you all the luck in the world, and where luck stops and
>>> personal responsibility begins, I wish you the courage to take it on.
>>>
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