[Blindtlk] Inferiority complexwithdisabilityvsnondisabledsociety
Ron Poire
rpoire at comcast.net
Fri Jun 4 02:23:09 UTC 2010
Okay all,
Let's see if Peter put his reply in the right place?
There are two examples of a reply from Peter.
He has a correct reply placement beginning with "Bryan" and another poor
placement down close to the bottom.
I believe Peter, this is right.
Ron
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority
complexwithdisabilityvsnondisabledsociety
> hi,
>
> you hit control+r and start typing.
>
> Bryan Schulz
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 7:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority
> complexwithdisabilityvsnondisabledsociety
>
>
>> Brian,
>>
>>
>> What is hard about reading? I have done everything I know with
>> control+home to do it. It obviously isn't working.
>>
>> On 6/3/10, Bryan Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> whats so hard about typing your reply at the top?????????????
>>>
>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 5:53 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complex
>>> withdisabilityvsnondisabledsociety
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 6/3/10, Gloria Whipple <fairyfoot at webband.com> wrote:
>>>>> You are not listening to what the people out here are trying to tell
>>>>> you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck to you in what you are trying to achieve.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gloria Whipple
>>>>> Corrisponding secretary
>>>>> Inland Empire chapter
>>>>> nfb of WA
>>>>>
>>>>> cell number: 509-475-4993
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Peter Wolfe
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:54 PM
>>>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complexwith
>>>>> disabilityvsnondisabledsociety
>>>>>
>>>>> Love thy neighbor right? You guys aren't hearing me about anything.
>>>>> Why is it important to go some school in another state spending
>>>>> government money to go to? I see a bunch of blind people doing things
>>>>> of what average order? Come on I'm asking the question here so answer
>>>>> me then? You keep dodging my questions left and right and where ever
>>>>> else. I could careless for your attitude for carelessness. You wonder
>>>>> why services and things are not accessible? boom right there.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/3/10, Steve P. Deeley <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hey Peter, I could care less where you live or don't live. Your
>>>>>> situation
>>>>>> is not going to impact my life in the least. Individuals on this
>>>>>> list
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> offering you suggestions and some great advice. The world is going
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> continue turning whatever you decide to do or not to do with your
>>>>>> life!!!
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 4:08 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complexwith
>>>>>> disabilityvsnondisabledsociety
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do you get around? You never had government assistance
>>>>>>> republican?
>>>>>>> Come on I can't believe this and if so you are a burden to your
>>>>>>> family
>>>>>>> or friends. We all must depend on others to an extent so this mocho
>>>>>>> thing isn't working on me bud. I'm originally from Texas the land of
>>>>>>> the rattle snakes and I can tell you your assuming a lot. What if
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> live in a largely rural area with very uneducated people? The people
>>>>>>> that you might think live just like you because your resources you
>>>>>>> take forgranted. I think it's an obligation by the government to
>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>> meaningful assistance to us. Look at VR counsulers for the most part
>>>>>>> they have secretaries that drive them around. You are crazed man
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/3/10, Steve P. Deeley <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> You want to live where is no public transportation, that is
>>>>>>>> certainly
>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>> business. Don't depend on the government to provide you with
>>>>>>>> transportation!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 8:25 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complexwith
>>>>>>>> disabilityvsnondisabledsociety
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Julie:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How many blind people are farmers? I bet not even a percent and
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> bet they have firm rootxs from generation to generation within
>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>> church. So, the family of massive wealth resources also helps as
>>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>> They grow their own food and can be able. How well can they see?
>>>>>>>>> Do
>>>>>>>>> they have a spouse or other relative nearby? I know of this cause
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> know someone in a simular situation with his own acrage and has
>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>> sister to help out tremendously. Not all of us have relatives
>>>>>>>>> alive
>>>>>>>>> anymore or if so aren't functionally able to do so. I am just
>>>>>>>>> saying.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 6/2/10, Julie J <julielj at windstream.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> What happens to the blind people who want to be farmers?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just sayin' public transportation isn't the miracle cure for
>>>>>>>>>> everything.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Steve P. Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 6:06 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complexwith
>>>>>>>>>> disabilityvsnondisabledsociety
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You need to take responsibility and move to areas where there is
>>>>>>>>>>> adequate
>>>>>>>>>>> public transportation!
>>>>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 6:00 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complex with
>>>>>>>>>>> disabilityvsnondisabledsociety
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If personal responsability was a mantra strong enough how come
>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> that blind people in particilar are not gainfully employed?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Some
>>>>>>>>>>>> areas
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't facilitate transportation and I have been around
>>>>>>>>>>>> virtually
>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>> types of blind people. There is a good number that can't get
>>>>>>>>>>>> hired
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> private companies in particilar go against it like Goergia
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pacific
>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>> have halfway commitments like car plants. Then, government
>>>>>>>>>>>> layoffs
>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Another thing is that many legallly blind people post about
>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>> almost completely blind prospective. Perhaps some of this can
>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>> done.
>>>>>>>>>>>> However, I've ran across plenty of blind people in my opinion
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> have people pick up after them. I mean that it's not as
>>>>>>>>>>>> independent
>>>>>>>>>>>> cause they don't want to be or people pity them too much. There
>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>> limitations even with the best accessability and acknowledging
>>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> a good realistic approach. Then, my interests and dislikes and
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>>>>>>> done that. I've researched these areas and what it boils down
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> insecurity with being blind.
>>>>>>>>>>>> About my local NFB branch. Since Mike Jones has been away
>>>>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>>>>> unknown set time to Hawaii to the last time I've heard that
>>>>>>>>>>>> Auburn's
>>>>>>>>>>>> NFB is nothing? It's mainly in bigger cities. How do you meet
>>>>>>>>>>>> blind
>>>>>>>>>>>> people then? The Program for Students with Disabilities isn't a
>>>>>>>>>>>> social
>>>>>>>>>>>> networking site unfortunately. It is okay via e-mail and I have
>>>>>>>>>>>> ran
>>>>>>>>>>>> into three blind people here just one has left and that is
>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> What would you do about choosing to change your major into
>>>>>>>>>>>> something with more creativity or teaching that you won't be
>>>>>>>>>>>> complained about doing cause they have already paid so much?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Initially
>>>>>>>>>>>> when I started college I wanted to be a lawyer but I realize
>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> element of corruption and huge sin risks by word scrambling to
>>>>>>>>>>>> suit
>>>>>>>>>>>> your own agenda that I don't like at all. So, the psychology
>>>>>>>>>>>> field,
>>>>>>>>>>>> history and political science all weren't what I wanted. There
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>> initative to get math and science students at Auburn to do that
>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have to take calculus 1 and or calculus 2 but I don't know
>>>>>>>>>>>> neimith code. How logn do you think it could take someone with
>>>>>>>>>>>> virtually no experience to learn the basics for that course? I
>>>>>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>>>>> just get a tutor though and do it that way. If there is
>>>>>>>>>>>> computer
>>>>>>>>>>>> scientists on the list just e-mail me. I don't beleieve that
>>>>>>>>>>>> blind
>>>>>>>>>>>> people have to do all of this calculus information like some
>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>> fabricated though. Arrogance is hard to deal with supposedly
>>>>>>>>>>>> successful blind people. I owuld like to own my own company!
>>>>>>>>>>>> note: thanks to all of you
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/2/10, Hyde, David W. (ESC) <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter, I started to reply several times. Gary and Steve both
>>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>>>>>>> points. They said the things I wanted to say. Let me add that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't have had the type of encouragement I have had were it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind. I have had the boone of meeting more successful people
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>> most,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> finding that they are willing to share their secrets (mostly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard
>>>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> techniques that make sense once you learn them) with me. They
>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>> expected
>>>>>>>>>>>>> me to pass them on to others. I have learned to try my best.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You sound like a fellow who has a number of things going on at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>>>> time. Please don't try to solve them all at once. If you can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> prioritize
>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs (it's hard, but it is the only way to get them all down)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> deal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them one at a time, you can see some progress. I think the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hardest
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> me to learn, and to explain is that it is acceptable to fail.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mean that you are less of a person. Everyone fails at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> something.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep
>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying new things, and I do some of them well, and some of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>>>> badly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> interesting to see which I learn the most from.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Find some blind people who you like in your area. Find some
>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> teach
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you the things that they do. None of us would have planed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>>>> we a choice. Since we didn't, some of us are happy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> successful,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> satisfied with life anyway. As I write, I remember a book I
>>>>> recently
>>>>>>>>>>>>> read
>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a fellow named Mike May. Mike now runs Sendero Group, doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> GPS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> systems.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> He's a nice guy, and I met him long before he was successful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>> book
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> called Crashing Through. I found it interesting in that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> guy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just never learned to fail. He failed until he found ways to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> succeed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't know if this helps or not. Please let us know how you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Dewey Bradley
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 1:40 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complex with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> disabilityvsnondisabledsociety
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Garry makes some very good points indeed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Graves, Diane" <dgraves at icrc.IN.gov>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "'Gary Wunder'" <gwunder at earthlink.net>; "'Blind Talk
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mailing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> List'"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:04 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complex with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> disabilityvsnondisabledsociety
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary makes some very good points here as well. It would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> untrue for me to tell you that there are no advantages to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sighted, or disadvantages to being blind. Just as there are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advantages
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to having money, v. not having as much. If Bill Gates
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decides
>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wants to order a pizza on a Friday night for dinner, he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to stop and think about whether or not he can afford it the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The point is though, that there are ways around most of these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We find those ways, most of them are not insurmountable, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> productive and full lives.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Diane Graves
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Civil Rights Specialist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indiana Civil Rights Commission
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternative Dispute Resolutions Unit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 317-232-2647
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "It is service that measures success."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George Washington Carver
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Gary Wunder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:25 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complex with disability
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nondisabledsociety
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter, you have asked many questions and I am certain in one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sitting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't begin to response to them all. Even this assumes I know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answers, which I most certainly do not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I throw out these ideas and observations with the suggestion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take what you like and leave the rest. It does no good to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compare
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourself with what you might have been. In the first place,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know what you might have been. I might be angry because my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owner of a successful construction business which I could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might be far better off financially than I am now. Without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sight,
>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't run the heavy equipment so perhaps I should be angry.
>>>>> Because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> am blind, I traveled a different road, went to college, got a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> degree,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and work as a computer programmer. That college experience
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> introduced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me to good books, to different thoughts about the world, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tolerance of other people I'd never have gotten had I stayed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> home.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which life is the better? Unfortunately this is a question
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer. I have to make of my life what is possible, without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spending
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too much time grieving about some alternative future.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In your note you acknowledge a lot of problems. Acknowledging
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a problem is often the first step on the road to solving it,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sometimes that acknowledgement is simply a way of stating the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the more we state it, the more we come to like the way we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We grow accustomed to the burden of that problem, and rather
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using our admission to solve it, we carry it like a badge of
>>>>> honor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In my own work, I can tell you that blineness makes many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which others find easy. They see computer screens and what is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from them is obvious. I hear computer screens and have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> often
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty hard to figure out what is wanted and where I am on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can make a real case for how disadvantaged this makes me,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more important thing is that I figure it out and be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> productive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can bring home a pay check.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You talk about the country in which you were born. There may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countries in which to be blind, but I am certain the majority
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worse.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your country you have the opportunity to make a contract with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That contract says that we, all of us, will help you with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> training
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equipment if, in return, you will try your hardest to take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equipment and training and put it to a productive use -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> preferably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use which will pay you. You will then pay taxes, buy a home,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your local businesses, not to mention Wal-Mart, and everyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wins.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Winning isn't easy, but it is far easier than carrying around
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anger for what you might have been if only you had tried.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take your anger and, if you can, turn it into resolve. Look
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> situation, acknowledge there are disadvantages, and at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> determine how you can benefit from where you find yourself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constantly live with the dream of driving the car you once
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be disappointed. If you live with the dream of the dcar which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be if we who are blind work together, then your sadness
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> become a tool for hope.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wish you all the luck in the world, and where luck stops
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> personal responsibility begins, I wish you the courage to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>> Webmaster
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>>> Webmaster
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> ----
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>>>>>>> Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2914 - Release Date:
>>>>>>>> 06/02/10
>>>>>>>> 14:25:00
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>> Webmaster
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>>>>>>> webmaster at darkstruggle.com
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> ----
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>>>>> Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2915 - Release Date:
>>>>>> 06/03/10
>>>>>> 02:25:00
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Peter
>>>>> Webmaster
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>>>>> webmaster at darkstruggle.com
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>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Peter
>>>> Webmaster
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>>>> webmaster at darkstruggle.com
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>>>>
>>>> awfully arrogant of you to say.
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>>
>> --
>> Peter
>> Webmaster
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