[Blindtlk] Inferiority complexwithdisabilityvsnondisabledsociety

Sat Jun 5 17:32:54 UTC 2010

That's cool!
Steve
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dewey Bradley" <dewey.bradley at att.net>
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority 
complexwithdisabilityvsnondisabledsociety


>I agree.
> I whent to a state school for the blind, they didn't even teach me 
> anything
> about zero points or anything about traveling.
> All I was shown is that if the buzzer on the crosswalk was not working, to
> just come back to the school.
> I have a friend that whent to the same school, I wish he would go to one 
> of
> the NFB training centers.
> I whent to the Colorado center my self.
> They made me use the cane, it got me over the embarrassment of it.
> Its the best thing I have done so far
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net>
> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 8:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority
> complexwithdisabilityvsnondisabledsociety
>
>
>> Dear Julie and All,
>>
>> You are so right.
>> After I went away for training I did learn better skills that I could
>> apply right away.
>> Luck for me that I had good examples, from other NFB members, o set the
>> pace for me.
>> I have no useable vision now and I still cross any intersection in the
>> County.  I often need to cross the intersection of two 6 lane roads,
>> Glades Road and State Road 7, in western Boca Raton.  These are roads 
>> that
>> each have a meridians, duel left turn lanes and all four corners, Right 
>> on
>> Red lanes at all four corners and see an average of 62, 000 cars a day.
>> I have to cross it in 2 directions just to go to and from the bus stop 
>> and
>> the 4 shopping centers that are there.  I also have to cross State Road 7
>> again after I walk a mile up the side walk to get back or from my home as
>> there is only side walk on one side of State Road 7 here.
>>
>> I encourage anyone to go and do what you need to do in the shortest 
>> amount
>> of time you can so you can get on with your life.
>> I put it off for years for one reason or another and now regret that.  In
>> the words of Larry the Cable Guy, "Getter done!"
>>
>> David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Julie J" <julielj at windstream.net>
>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 6:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority
>> complexwithdisabilityvsnondisabledsociety
>>
>>
>>> In answer to the question of why it is important to go away for 
>>> blindness
>>> training...
>>>
>>> Because there is a lot of things to learn.  The most concise
>>> comprehensive
>>> way to get good quality training is to go to a residential program.
>>> There
>>> are three operated by the NFB all very good, but there are state 
>>> programs
>>> and others that are excellent as well.
>>>
>>> You can get all the basics in approximately 9 months by working on it 
>>> all
>>> day every day.  If you work on learning all that through a 
>>> correspondence
>>> school like Hadley, a home based vocational rehabilitation program or by
>>> trial and error yourself, it could take years and years.  It just makes
>>> sense to me to invest the time up front and get on with living.
>>>
>>> You will learn skills like how to travel all sorts of places by yourself
>>> using only a white cane and your common sense.  You will learn how to 
>>> use
>>> a
>>> computer, read and write Braille, cook, clean, match clothes, challenge
>>> your
>>> thinking about blindness and so much more. I can't begin to list
>>> everything
>>> here.
>>>
>>> The best thing about blindness training at a really good program, like
>>> one
>>> of the NFB centers, is that they teach you to problem solve and work
>>> through
>>> things on your own.  You will be taught basic skills and then you will 
>>> be
>>> asked to use those skills in all sorts of different ways to work through
>>> all
>>> sorts of different situations.  For example, I was taught how to cross a
>>> street and then I used that basic knowledge and applied it to all sorts
>>> of
>>> different types of street crossings.   I didn't have to be taught each
>>> individual crossing, only the basic principles that can be applied to 
>>> any
>>> situation.
>>>
>>> Just my own thoughts and experiences.  Take what you like and disregard
>>> the
>>> rest.
>>>
>>> Julie
>>>
>>>
>>> riginal Message ----- 
>>> From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 3:54 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority
>>> complexwithdisabilityvsnondisabledsociety
>>>
>>>
>>>> Love thy neighbor right? You guys aren't hearing me about anything.
>>>> Why is it important to go some school in another state spending
>>>> government money to go to? I see a bunch of blind people doing things
>>>> of what average order? Come on I'm asking the question here so answer
>>>> me then? You keep dodging my questions left and right and where ever
>>>> else. I could careless for your attitude for carelessness. You wonder
>>>> why services and things are not accessible? boom right there.
>>>>
>>>> On 6/3/10, Steve P. Deeley <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hey Peter, I could care less where you live or don't live.  Your
>>>>> situation
>>>>> is not going to impact my life in the least.  Individuals on this list
>>>>> are
>>>>> offering you suggestions and some great advice.  The world is going to
>>>>> continue turning whatever you decide to do or not to do with your
>>>>> life!!!
>>>>> Steve
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 4:08 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complexwith
>>>>> disabilityvsnondisabledsociety
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you get around? You never had government assistance 
>>>>>> republican?
>>>>>> Come on I can't believe this and if so you are a burden to your 
>>>>>> family
>>>>>> or friends. We all must depend on others to an extent so this mocho
>>>>>> thing isn't working on me bud. I'm originally from Texas the land of
>>>>>> the rattle snakes and I can tell you your assuming a lot. What if you
>>>>>> live in a largely rural area with very uneducated people? The people
>>>>>> that you might think live just like you because your resources you
>>>>>> take forgranted. I think it's an obligation by the government to give
>>>>>> meaningful assistance to us. Look at VR counsulers for the most part
>>>>>> they have secretaries that drive them around. You are crazed man
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/3/10, Steve P. Deeley <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> You want to live where is no public transportation, that is 
>>>>>>> certainly
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> business.  Don't depend on the government to provide you with
>>>>>>> transportation!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 8:25 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complexwith
>>>>>>> disabilityvsnondisabledsociety
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Julie:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   How many blind people are farmers? I bet not even a percent and I
>>>>>>>> bet they have firm rootxs from generation to generation within 
>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>> church. So, the family of massive wealth resources also helps as
>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>> They grow their own food and can be able. How well can they see? Do
>>>>>>>> they have a spouse or other relative nearby? I know of this cause I
>>>>>>>> know someone in a simular situation with his own acrage and has his
>>>>>>>> sister to help out tremendously. Not all of us have relatives alive
>>>>>>>> anymore or if so aren't functionally able to do so. I am just
>>>>>>>> saying.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6/2/10, Julie J <julielj at windstream.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> What happens to the blind people who want to be farmers?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just sayin' public transportation isn't the miracle cure for
>>>>>>>>> everything.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Steve P. Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 6:06 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complexwith
>>>>>>>>> disabilityvsnondisabledsociety
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You need to take responsibility and move to areas where there is
>>>>>>>>>> adequate
>>>>>>>>>> public transportation!
>>>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 6:00 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complex with
>>>>>>>>>> disabilityvsnondisabledsociety
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If personal responsability was a mantra strong enough how come 
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> that blind people in particilar are not gainfully employed? Some
>>>>>>>>>>> areas
>>>>>>>>>>> don't facilitate transportation and I have been around virtually
>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>> types of blind people. There is a good number that can't get
>>>>>>>>>>> hired
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> private companies in particilar go against it  like Goergia
>>>>>>>>>>> Pacific
>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>> have halfway commitments like car plants. Then, government
>>>>>>>>>>> layoffs
>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>>>>    Another thing is that many legallly blind people post about 
>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>> almost completely blind prospective. Perhaps some of this can be
>>>>>>>>>>> done.
>>>>>>>>>>> However, I've ran across plenty of blind people in my opinion
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> have people pick up after them. I mean that it's not as
>>>>>>>>>>> independent
>>>>>>>>>>> cause they don't want to be or people pity them too much. There
>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>> limitations even with the best accessability and acknowledging
>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> a good realistic approach. Then, my interests and dislikes and
>>>>>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>>>>>> done that. I've researched these areas and what it boils down to
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> insecurity with being blind.
>>>>>>>>>>>    About my local NFB branch. Since Mike Jones has been away for
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> unknown set time to Hawaii to the last time I've heard that
>>>>>>>>>>> Auburn's
>>>>>>>>>>> NFB is nothing? It's mainly in bigger cities. How do you meet
>>>>>>>>>>> blind
>>>>>>>>>>> people then? The Program for Students with Disabilities isn't a
>>>>>>>>>>> social
>>>>>>>>>>> networking site unfortunately. It is okay via e-mail and I have
>>>>>>>>>>> ran
>>>>>>>>>>> into three blind people here just one has left and that is about
>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>    What would you do about choosing to change your major into
>>>>>>>>>>> something with more creativity or teaching that you won't be
>>>>>>>>>>> complained about doing cause they have already paid so much?
>>>>>>>>>>> Initially
>>>>>>>>>>> when I started college I wanted to be a lawyer but I realize 
>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> element of corruption and huge sin risks by word scrambling to
>>>>>>>>>>> suit
>>>>>>>>>>> your own agenda that I don't like at all. So, the psychology
>>>>>>>>>>> field,
>>>>>>>>>>> history and political science all weren't what I wanted. There 
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> initative to get math and science students at Auburn to do that
>>>>>>>>>>> stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>    I have to take calculus 1 and or calculus 2 but I don't know
>>>>>>>>>>> neimith code. How logn do you think it could take someone with
>>>>>>>>>>> virtually no experience to learn the basics for that course? I
>>>>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>>>> just get a tutor though and do it that way. If there is computer
>>>>>>>>>>> scientists on the list just e-mail me. I don't beleieve that
>>>>>>>>>>> blind
>>>>>>>>>>> people have to do all of this calculus information like some 
>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>> fabricated though. Arrogance is hard to deal with supposedly
>>>>>>>>>>> successful blind people. I owuld like to own my own company!
>>>>>>>>>>> note: thanks to all of you
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/2/10, Hyde, David W. (ESC) <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter, I started to reply several times. Gary and Steve both
>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>>>>>> points. They said the things I wanted to say. Let me add that I
>>>>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't have had the type of encouragement I have had were it
>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>> blind. I have had the boone of meeting more successful people
>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>> most,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> finding that they are willing to share their secrets (mostly
>>>>>>>>>>>> hard
>>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> techniques that make sense once you learn them) with me. They
>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>> expected
>>>>>>>>>>>> me to pass them on to others. I have learned to try my best.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You sound like a fellow who has a number of things going on at
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>>> time. Please don't try to solve them all at once. If you can
>>>>>>>>>>>> prioritize
>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>> needs (it's hard, but it is the only way to get them all down)
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> deal
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> them one at a time, you can see some progress. I think the
>>>>>>>>>>>> hardest
>>>>>>>>>>>> thing
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> me to learn, and to explain is that it is acceptable to fail. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> mean that you are less of a person. Everyone fails at 
>>>>>>>>>>>> something.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> keep
>>>>>>>>>>>> trying new things, and I do some of them well, and some of them
>>>>>>>>>>>> badly.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's
>>>>>>>>>>>> interesting to see which I learn the most from.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Find some blind people who you like in your area. Find some who
>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>> teach
>>>>>>>>>>>> you the things that they do. None of us would have planed to be
>>>>>>>>>>>> blind,
>>>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>>> we a choice. Since we didn't, some of us are happy, successful,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> satisfied with life anyway. As I write, I remember a book I
>>>>>>>>>>>> recently
>>>>>>>>>>>> read
>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>> a fellow named Mike May. Mike now runs Sendero Group, doing GPS
>>>>>>>>>>>> systems.
>>>>>>>>>>>> He's a nice guy, and I met him long before he was successful.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>> book
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> called Crashing Through. I found it interesting in that Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> guy
>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>> just never learned to fail. He failed until he found ways to
>>>>>>>>>>>> succeed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't know if this helps or not. Please let us know how you're
>>>>>>>>>>>> doing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Dewey Bradley
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 1:40 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complex with
>>>>>>>>>>>> disabilityvsnondisabledsociety
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Garry makes some very good points indeed.
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Graves, Diane" <dgraves at icrc.IN.gov>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "'Gary Wunder'" <gwunder at earthlink.net>; "'Blind Talk
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mailing
>>>>>>>>>>>> List'"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:04 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complex with
>>>>>>>>>>>> disabilityvsnondisabledsociety
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary makes some very good points here as well. It would simply
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> untrue for me to tell you that there are no advantages to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sighted, or disadvantages to being blind. Just as there are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> advantages
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to having money, v. not  having as much. If Bill Gates decides
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wants to order a pizza on a Friday night for dinner, he 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to stop and think about whether or not he can afford it the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The point is though, that there are ways around most of these
>>>>>>>>>>>>> things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We find those ways, most of them are not insurmountable,  and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>> lead
>>>>>>>>>>>>> productive and full lives.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Diane Graves
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Civil Rights Specialist
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indiana Civil Rights Commission
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternative Dispute Resolutions Unit
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 317-232-2647
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "It is service that measures success."
>>>>>>>>>>>>> George Washington Carver
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Gary Wunder
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:25 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complex with disability vs
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nondisabledsociety
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter, you have asked many questions and I am certain in one
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sitting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't begin to response to them all. Even this assumes I know
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> answers, which I most certainly do not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I throw out these ideas and observations with the suggestion
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> take what you like and leave the rest. It does no good to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> compare
>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourself with what you might have been. In the first place, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> know what you might have been. I might be angry because my Dad
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> owner of a successful construction business which I could have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> might be far better off financially than I am now. Without
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sight,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't run the heavy equipment so perhaps I should be angry.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> am blind, I traveled a different road, went to college, got a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> degree,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and work as a computer programmer. That college experience
>>>>>>>>>>>>> introduced
>>>>>>>>>>>>> me to good books, to different thoughts about the world, and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tolerance of other people I'd never have gotten had I stayed 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> home.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which life is the better? Unfortunately this is a question
>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer. I have to make of my life what is possible, without
>>>>>>>>>>>>> spending
>>>>>>>>>>>>> too much time grieving about some alternative future.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In your note you acknowledge a lot of problems. Acknowledging
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a problem is often the first step on the road to solving it,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sometimes that acknowledgement is simply a way of stating the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the more we state it, the more we come to like the way we
>>>>>>>>>>>>> say
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We grow accustomed to the burden of that problem, and rather
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>> using our admission to solve it, we carry it like a badge of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> honor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In my own work, I can tell you that blineness makes many 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard
>>>>>>>>>>>>> which others find easy. They see computer screens and what is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from them is obvious. I hear computer screens and have to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> often
>>>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty hard to figure out what is wanted and where I am on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can make a real case for how disadvantaged this makes me, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> more important thing is that I figure it out and be productive
>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can bring home a pay check.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You talk about the country in which you were born. There may 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>>>>>> countries in which to be blind, but I am certain the majority
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> worse.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>>>>>> your country you have the opportunity to make a contract with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>> people.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That contract says that we, all of us, will help you with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> training
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> equipment if, in return, you will try your hardest to take 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> equipment and training and put it to a productive use -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> preferably
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> use which will pay you. You will then pay taxes, buy a home,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>>>>>> your local businesses, not to mention Wal-Mart, and everyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wins.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Winning isn't easy, but it is far easier than carrying around
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> anger for what you might have been if only you had tried.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take your anger and, if you can, turn it into resolve. Look at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>> situation, acknowledge there are disadvantages, and at the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>>> determine how you can benefit from where you find yourself. If
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> constantly live with the dream of driving the car you once 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> had,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be disappointed. If you live with the dream of the dcar which
>>>>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be if we who are blind work together, then your sadness may
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> become a tool for hope.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wish you all the luck in the world, and where luck stops and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> personal responsibility begins, I wish you the courage to take
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>>>>> Webmaster
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