[Blindtlk] Travel, Drivers, and canes

Mon Jun 7 13:36:50 UTC 2010

Wouldn't it be better if there were Audible Traffic Signals at most
intersections? It seems that the chirpy sound would both keep the drivers
and the pedestrians alert. I believe that if a driver were at an
intersection with an Audible Traffic Pedestrian Signal it (the driver) would
hear the chirpy sound of the signal and help him/her to be more aware of
his/her surroundings. Surroundings being other cars, traffic signal, flow of
traffic, and pedestrians. Why is it that the NFB does not endorse this sort
of protection for its people? I think it would be more effective to have
these signals installed at all major intersections.

Thanks,
Mari Hunziker
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Hyde, David W. (ESC) <
david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us> wrote:

> You are correct. A cane, a dog, nor anything else protects pedestrians from
> inattentive drivers. Nor, by the way, does vision, or a suit of armor. The
> only thing that does is being an attentive pedestrian. Those who put faith
> in the willingness of drivers to obey laws are right, most of the time. My
> personal rule is that the driver always has right of way, even when they
> don't. In this case, they are bigger than me.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Steve P. Deeley
> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 7:59 AM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complex
> withdisabilityvsnondisabledsociety
>
> Well, a cane does not protect you from bad, distracted drivers.  The blind
> want equality, they have it with the drivers on the road today as far as
> being run over.  I have found that most drivers today do not pay attention
> to a white cane.  I've been bumped more than once.  You really need to pay
> attention when you are crossing any intersection these days.
>
> Steve
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dewey Bradley" <dewey.bradley at att.net>
> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 11:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complex
> withdisabilityvsnondisabledsociety
>
>
> > Some intersections really are hard to cross, I am a very good
> > traveler, and some times I have trouble with some of them, some times
> > there are just hard to do, they may or may not be true in her case.
> > And drivers are getting very bad anymore, they are always texting and
> > crap like that, and when you have kids, you have to really watch it.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net>
> > To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 7:45 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complex
> > withdisabilityvsnondisabledsociety
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Dear Mary,
> >>
> >> I must say that you need some basic O and M instruction in street
> >> crossing.
> >> As for get a light installed, you need to keep after the traffic
> >> department and also your city or County Commissioner as this is a
> >> safety issue.
> >> Do you use a Long White Cane?  If so where did you go for training.
> >> You should contact your State's Division of Blind Services and they
> >> will pay for it and other rehab training you need.
> >> Don't let the world pass you by.  Time is wasting.
> >> Your State's DBS can send you to a training center or even send
> >> someone to your home to help train you to get across that street and
> >> allot more.
> >> Good luck sweetie!
> >>
> >> David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Mari Hunziker" <marihunziker at gmail.com>
> >> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 12:43 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complex with
> >> disabilityvsnondisabledsociety
> >>
> >>
> >>> Gary, I haven't had the STRENGTH to respond to Peter's message. I
> >>> too, have suffered greatly. I used to receive transportation
> >>> services here in my city but a few years ago they built a Park &
> >>> Ride several miles away. And because of it I am no longer in the ADA
> >>> service area. I have become a burden to friends, family, and my
> >>> husband. My kids and I are trapped in our home, until some generous
> >>> sameritan drives us to the store, the park, etc. I'm not even able
> >>> to cross the street across from my subdivision. I have contacted,
> >>> TXDOT, Travis County, and the city to have them install safe
> >>> pedestrian crossings. They have not taken any action yet. I also was
> >>> on a committee to purchase new park playground equipment for the
> >>> park near my home. The board of my HOA said it would be in by April.
> >>> It is now June and they still haven't put any playground equipment
> >>> in at the park. It makes me sad, because I do not drive, obviously
> >>> since I am legally blind. I want to make a difference in the world
> >>> but sometimes feel like Peter, inferior to my circumstances and
> >>> environment. It is very frustrating. I want so hard to be
> >>> independent but where I live it is impossible to get anywhere
> >>> independently.
> >>> I however, am proud of the fact that I can walk to my son's school,
> >>> to the DQ and Taco Bell and Walgreens near the school as well as a
> >>> few other places like the Post Office that are on the same side of
> >>> the street that my home is on. How do I get the local governments
> >>> and other organizations willing to make accommodations so that I may
> >>> become an independent patron of the establishments across the street
> >>> from my subdivision? Oh and by the way, cabs/taxi's are extremely
> >>> expensive to call on just to get across the street. Please help!
> >>> Please give me some advise.
> >>> Thank you,
> >>> Mari
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Gary Wunder <gwunder at earthlink.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Peter, I disagree with your characterization of the notes written
> >>>> to you as arrogant or conservative.  No one has told you to just go
> >>>> do it yourself.
> >>>>  People have put their hearts into words for you and in thanks for
> >>>> that you have told us what a small list we make up and how small
> >>>> minded we are.
> >>>>
> >>>> Julie wrote to you a wonderfully constructive message.  The same is
> >>>> true of Steve and Dave and others.  You have to decide whether you
> >>>> are content being angry and figure out how to channel your anger
> >>>> into something positive.
> >>>> If
> >>>> you need help convincing Alabama rehab to send you to a Center, we
> >>>> can try to help.  We can't promise results, but we can promise our
> >>>> best efforts.
> >>>>
> >>>> If your area has no chapter, then we need you more than ever
> >>>> because there is hope the NFB isn't offering which you can bring if
> >>>> you will.  If you have suffered more than most of us, then perhaps
> >>>> you will have more compassion than we for people who really need
> >>>> you.  Your inspiration may inspire them, your perseverance may give
> >>>> them strength, and your willingness to give some of yourself to
> >>>> them will make all of us better.  Are you interested in talking
> >>>> about problems and solutions or in just putting us down for
> >>>> extending ourselves to you?
> >>>>
> >>>> Gary
> >>>>
> >>>>
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