[Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation questions

Steve P. Deeley stevep.deeley at insightbb.com
Tue Oct 12 00:15:19 UTC 2010 

I don't understand how coffee makers draw or attract bugs?
Steve
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jane" <juanitatighan at gmail.com>
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation questions


>  I used to love using coffee makers, but I had trouble keeping bugs
> away.  Now I buy coffee beans and have a grinder and a French Press and
> an electric kettle.  I measure out three scoops of coffee beans into the
> grinder, plug it in, hold the button down for a twelve-fourteen count,
> unplug, pour into the press and wait while the water boils.  After that,
> pour in the water, let sit for five minutes with the top o    n and the
> plunger up, then push it down and give it a minute or two.  Then pour.
> Takes some time, because of the waiting, but still worth it.  Now, all I
> need is to learn how to make the cold coffee and chocolate drinks I like
> and I'll be content.
>
> For all that making coffee that way takes time, it's overall less
> expensive, because you only have to go to the store once to get a large
> can of coffee beans and freeze them.  (They say freezing preserves the
> whatever it is that makes the coffee good, and leaving it out doesn't.)
>
> Jane
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> On 10/11/2010 11:27 AM, Peter Donahue wrote:
>> Good morning everyone,
>>
>>      One idea is being over-looked in this discussion. Why not do some of
>> your grocery shopping online? If you like Starbuck's Coffee why not order 
>> it
>> via their Web site and learn to make it yourself. You could take that cab
>> fare you're paying and pay the shipping to order items in bulk. Since we 
>> no
>> longer have a large grocery store within walking distance we're examining
>> our shopping habits to decide which items we can order online and which
>> items require a trip to the store to help save time and money.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ron Poire"<rpoire at comcast.net>
>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List"<blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 9:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation questions
>>
>>
>> It seems rather a waste of money for a $3 late.
>> Ron
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kerri Kosten"<kerrik2006 at gmail.com>
>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List"<blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 9:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation questions
>>
>>
>>> Hi Cindy and All:
>>>
>>> I was thinking more along the lines of Starbucks...I used to never
>>> drink coffee but last week I took the plunge and tried a pumpkin spice
>>> latte...mmmmm...now I'm addicted...I really want to get another one
>>> soon but don't really have anyone to take me and I have no idea
>>> whether the bus goes to Starbucks...I doubt it...so the only thing I
>>> could think to do was to take a cab, have them drive me through
>>> Starbucks, I get the pumpkin spice coffee, then they takeme home...and
>>> of course I pay the fare...has anyone ever done this?
>>>
>>> Does Starbucks sell food or just coffee?
>>>
>>> Mmmmmm...pumpkin spice coffee...mmm lol...if you haven't tried it yet
>>> you should lol
>>>
>>> Kerri!
>>>
>>> On 10/9/10, Cindy Handel<cindy425 at verizon.net>  wrote:
>>>> Kerri,
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure, as long as you're willing to pay the fare, a cab would take 
>>>> you
>>>> through a drive-through for food.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Kerri Kosten"<kerrik2006 at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 9:15 PM
>>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List"<blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation questions
>>>>
>>>>> Hi:
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, unfortunately it turns out we don't have paratransit or dial a
>>>>> ride service here so that's out for me even if I wanted it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm fine with money lol...I just don't want to overspend on
>>>>> transportation while everyone else gets to use buses, public
>>>>> transportation, or paratransit...that's all! I asked these questions
>>>>> because I want to make sure I'm not having to over-spend or spend tons
>>>>> more than other people who live in small towns.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do have another question though I just thought of. Is it possible to
>>>>> take a cab, go through a drive-through, then go back home and of
>>>>> course pay the fare? What do you do when you want something real
>>>>> quick...like something from say McDonalds or Sonic or Starbucks? A
>>>>> sighted person just gets into their car, goes, then goes right back
>>>>> home...as long as the fare is paid is it possible to do this with a
>>>>> cab?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also...just out of pure boredom and curiosity I looked up the cost of
>>>>> owning a car...obviously it varies depending on the type of car and
>>>>> how much gas/insurance costs but from what I found it said a car can
>>>>> cost anywhere from $8,000 a year to $15,000 a year. It also said
>>>>> monthly it costs about $612...so it seems to me we get off cheap in
>>>>> terms of transportation. The site also said that according to the
>>>>> Department of Labor survey and statistics vehicles are the second
>>>>> biggest expense for most households...I forget what the first was...so
>>>>> it seems like to me we get off cheap when it comes to
>>>>> transportation...even if you have to pay $5 a cab to get anywhere like
>>>>> I do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kerri
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/9/10, Bryan Schulz<b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>  wrote:
>>>>>> the reality of 70% unemployed is that money saved versus extra time
>>>>>> spent
>>>>>>
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> acceptable.
>>>>>> lets see you send Kerri significant cab bucks and see if your opinion
>>>>>> changes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Steve P. Deeley"<stevep.deeley at insightbb.com>
>>>>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List"<blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 5:54 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation 
>>>>>> questions
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because you spend a great deal more time on parra-transit.  Time is
>>>>>>> money!
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Bryan Schulz"<b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List"<blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 6:37 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation 
>>>>>>> questions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> if a place is at least a 20 minute drive and by cab would cost 
>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>> $25
>>>>>>>> each way and the dor-door or para trans bus is $4, why throw away 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> extra
>>>>>>>> money?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Steve P. Deeley"<stevep.deeley at insightbb.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List"<blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 5:02 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation
>>>>>>>> questions
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Get a cab!
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Kerri Kosten"<kerrik2006 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "Blind Talk Mailing 
>>>>>>>>> List"<blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 6:43 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation questions
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi All:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have some more questions about grocery shopping and
>>>>>>>>>> transportation.
>>>>>>>>>> Instead of making two separate posts, I figured I'd just put all 
>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>> questions in one post...they are somewhat related to each other.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll start with the grocery shopping questions.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In the apartment building I live in, there is no elevator.
>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately I live on the third floor, which is up four flights
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> steps. What is the best way to carry lots of groceries up the
>>>>>>>>>> steps?
>>>>>>>>>> Would it be okay, when having lots of groceries to set some of 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> bags on the floor in the hallway by the door, go up with as much 
>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> can carry, then come back for the rest? Is there any better way 
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> carry groceries than in the plastic bags the grocery bagger puts
>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>> in? I've been told about burlap sacks that you can carry on your
>>>>>>>>>> shoulder...does this reduce the load much? I want to make this as
>>>>>>>>>> easy
>>>>>>>>>> as possible.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How often do you usually go grocery shopping? When you go, do you
>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>> get the things you absolutely need, and keep the load as little 
>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>> possible or do you usually take advantage of the fact you are at
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> store and get lots of stuff?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My next questions are about transportation. I live in a college
>>>>>>>>>> town.
>>>>>>>>>> I guess it's your typical college town. It's big enough to be
>>>>>>>>>> considered a small city or large town...we have five Krogers, 
>>>>>>>>>> four
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> more Walmarts...tons of restaurants and bars, two malls...two 
>>>>>>>>>> movie
>>>>>>>>>> theaters. It isn't a major city though.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We do have a bus system but I've never been encouraged to use it.
>>>>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>>>>> just been expected to take cabs everywhere.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> One of the problems though is that the town is not really a 
>>>>>>>>>> walking
>>>>>>>>>> town...there are parts of it you can walk in but not very many.
>>>>>>>>>> When
>>>>>>>>>> things/places are built, often pedestrian accessibility is left
>>>>>>>>>> out.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There doesn't seem to be any blind people; there is no NFB 
>>>>>>>>>> chapter.
>>>>>>>>>> So, naturally the majority of the people, including most of the
>>>>>>>>>> students drive. From what I've read on their website, the bus
>>>>>>>>>> covers
>>>>>>>>>> many areas, but usually until only 6 o'clock, unless it's 
>>>>>>>>>> downtown
>>>>>>>>>> where the students are. I don't live downtown though. Because of
>>>>>>>>>> this,
>>>>>>>>>> I find myself having to take cabs almost everywhere. Cabs here 
>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>> about $5-6 each way. Is this normal for a college town? Is this
>>>>>>>>>> expensive for a cab?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Are my only options to either take the bus when it is available 
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>> cabs?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Should I just not worry about the expense and take cabs when and
>>>>>>>>>> wherever?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is learning to use the bus hard or is it as simple as calling and
>>>>>>>>>> asking the right questions?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > From what I can tell, from where I live, in order to take the 
>>>>>>>>>> > bus
>>>>>>>>>> again since I'm not in the downtown student area I will have to
>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>> two buses to get anywhere and it usually takes about two hours. 
>>>>>>>>>> Is
>>>>>>>>>> this normal for a large town/small city?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The closest major city to me is Pittsburgh. There is a bus that
>>>>>>>>>> goes
>>>>>>>>>> there twice. In order to take a grayhound bus, or AM track train
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> have to somehow get to Pittsburgh. Is the bus going twice daily
>>>>>>>>>> reasonable?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For those of you who live in college towns similar to this how do
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> find a balance between taking cabs, using family and friends, and
>>>>>>>>>> taking the bus?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What is the cost monthly of owning a vehicle compared to taking
>>>>>>>>>> cabs
>>>>>>>>>> all the time? I'm sorry to ask this...I've never been told.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I guess I am just asking these questions because I want to make
>>>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not getting screwed so to speak. I don't mind taking cabs, 
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> sometimes I feel like I'm just automatically expected to spend 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> money just because...if you know what I mean by that! I've been
>>>>>>>>>> told
>>>>>>>>>> owning a vehicle is several hundreds of dollars a month when the
>>>>>>>>>> cost
>>>>>>>>>> of maintaenance, car payments, insurance, and gas is added up but
>>>>>>>>>> again these have just been from sighted people who don't take 
>>>>>>>>>> cabs.
>>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>> seems like most other blind people I know don't take cabs unless
>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> absolutely have to and I hate having to do it all the time. In 
>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>> sense I feel like I'm being told to go ahead, don't worry about 
>>>>>>>>>> it,
>>>>>>>>>> owning a vehicle is expensive too...but then on the other hand so
>>>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>>>> blind people don't seem to like doing it. I know each town is
>>>>>>>>>> different...but if I want to go somewhere and it's after 6 and 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> bus
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't go are cabs or family/friends my only options? I've never
>>>>>>>>>> gone
>>>>>>>>>> completely broke or run out of money by taking cabs but again...I
>>>>>>>>>> feel
>>>>>>>>>> as if I'm getting mixed messages and I want to make sure I'm 
>>>>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> right/best thing. From where I live you can't walk anywhere as
>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>> are several things across the street but it's not actually a 
>>>>>>>>>> street
>>>>>>>>>> but a major six-lane highway...so walking is out. I'm not married
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> live alone. Do those of you who live in towns like this find
>>>>>>>>>> yourselves having to also take cabs more frequently than other
>>>>>>>>>> blind
>>>>>>>>>> people? I know my questions seem a little crazy but I thought I'd
>>>>>>>>>> ask
>>>>>>>>>> them all in one post.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kerri
>>>>>>>>>>
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