[Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation questions

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Tue Oct 19 04:01:01 UTC 2010


The feature I most liked about the Bookport is it useddouble A batteries.

Anjelina
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On Oct 18, 2010, at 7:03 PM, Mari Hunziker <marihunziker at gmail.com> wrote:

> So cool,Thanks, Mari Hunziker
> 
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Danielle Montour <hypoplexer at gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> For Gary: there is now the Bookport plus.  My friend has one.
>> For Mari: you can also play mp3 files on your Victor Stream.  I have put
>> audio described movies on mine before, and it's great to listen to on a car
>> or plane ride.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> Danni
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Constance Canode <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net
>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 17:05:50 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation questions
>> 
>> I have a Book Sense and Rick has the Victor Reader.  The Sense is
>> smaller.  They both have good points.  I love the Book Sense.  You
>> can get the deluxe one with a radio in it, but I didn't get that one,
>> just got the plain reading machine.  You can also put music on either
>> device.
>> 
>> Connie
>> At 06:13 AM 10/18/2010, you wrote:
>> Mary,
>> 
>> For reading books, I would highly recommend the Victor Reader Stream.  It's
>> small, can be worn with a shoulder strap, and you would read books while
>> doing other tasks, during the day.
>> 
>> Cindy
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mari Hunziker" <marihunziker at gmail.com
>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 10:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation questions
>> 
>> 
>> Gary and Dave,
>> What type of portable reader do you all use.  I have been wanting one for
>> years.  I don't know how to read braille, although, I really do wish I did.
>> I
>> want to read more but I only get to when my kids will allow me to sit on my
>> front porch swing.  I take out a small, easy to carry-up to my nose-book
>> that
>> I can use my magnifier with.  But sadly it takes me so long to read with
>> the
>> magnifier that I only get about 2-3 pages read if even that much.  Do you
>> all
>> use the Victor Reader Stream? I have been thinking about getting me one.
>> What is your opinion on that.
>> Thanks,
>> Mari Hunziker
>> 
>> On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 9:39 PM, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Gary you are right!  I have a long commute, an hour 45 minutes each way.
>> I
>> skim half a dozen newspapers a day, on my stream, and read an average of a
>> book every day and a half.  I love to read, and wouldn't want to give it
>> up
>> -- the commute is the perfect opportunity.
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> At 10:14 AM 10/12/2010, you wrote:
>> 
>> I read a most interesting article several years ago and the thesis was
>> that
>> many of us would have an easier time with public transportation, where
>> available, if we would see the time we spend in transit as a plus rather
>> than a minus.  The article noted that many people who drive long distances
>> to
>> and from work complain about their inability to read, and yet writing
>> while
>> somebody else does the driving is a perfect way to have that time.  I
>> don't
>> think anything we can say will do away with the frustration that occurs
>> when
>> we realize some people can easily run to the store, but for most of us it
>> takes more planning.  Still, I have to tell you that I have been much more
>> peaceful about late cabs, buses, and airplanes just by having a portable
>> reader in my pocket.
>> 
>> Gary
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Cindy Handel
>> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 6:44 PM
>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation questions
>> 
>> Yes, it could be said that time is money.  But, I don't think they would
>> accept "time" to pay for groceries!
>> 
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Steve P.  Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com
>> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 6:54 PM
>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation questions
>> 
>> Because you spend a great deal more time on parra-transit.  Time is
>> money!
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net
>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 6:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation questions
>> 
>> 
>> if a place is at least a 20 minute drive and by cab would cost about
>> $25 each way and the dor-door or para trans bus is $4, why throw away
>> the extra money?
>> 
>> Bryan Schulz
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steve P.  Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com
>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 5:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation
>> questions
>> 
>> 
>> Get a cab!
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kerri Kosten" <kerrik2006 at gmail.com
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 6:43 PM
>> Subject: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation questions
>> 
>> 
>> Hi All:
>> 
>> I have some more questions about grocery shopping and
>> transportation.
>> Instead of making two separate posts, I figured I'd just put all my
>> questions in one post...they are somewhat related to each other.
>> 
>> I'll start with the grocery shopping questions.
>> 
>> In the apartment building I live in, there is no elevator.
>> Unfortunately I live on the third floor, which is up four flights
>> of steps.  What is the best way to carry lots of groceries up the
>> steps?
>> Would it be okay, when having lots of groceries to set some of the
>> bags on the floor in the hallway by the door, go up with as much as
>> I can carry, then come back for the rest? Is there any better way
>> to carry groceries than in the plastic bags the grocery bagger puts
>> them in? I've been told about burlap sacks that you can carry on
>> your shoulder...does this reduce the load much? I want to make this
>> as easy as possible.
>> 
>> How often do you usually go grocery shopping? When you go, do you
>> just get the things you absolutely need, and keep the load as
>> little as possible or do you usually take advantage of the fact you
>> are at the store and get lots of stuff?
>> 
>> My next questions are about transportation.  I live in a college
>> town.
>> I guess it's your typical college town.  It's big enough to be
>> considered a small city or large town...we have five Krogers, four
>> or more Walmarts...tons of restaurants and bars, two malls...two
>> movie theaters.  It isn't a major city though.
>> 
>> We do have a bus system but I've never been encouraged to use it.
>> I've just been expected to take cabs everywhere.
>> 
>> One of the problems though is that the town is not really a walking
>> town...there are parts of it you can walk in but not very many.
>> When things/places are built, often pedestrian accessibility is left
>> out.
>> 
>> There doesn't seem to be any blind people; there is no NFB chapter.
>> So, naturally the majority of the people, including most of the
>> students drive.  From what I've read on their website, the bus
>> covers many areas, but usually until only 6 o'clock, unless it's
>> downtown where the students are.  I don't live downtown though.
>> Because of this, I find myself having to take cabs almost
>> everywhere.  Cabs here are about $5-6 each way.  Is this normal for a
>> college town? Is this expensive for a cab?
>> 
>> Are my only options to either take the bus when it is available or
>> take cabs?
>> 
>> Should I just not worry about the expense and take cabs when and
>> wherever?
>> 
>> Is learning to use the bus hard or is it as simple as calling and
>> asking the right questions?
>> 
>> From what I can tell, from where I live, in order to take the bus
>>> 
>> again since I'm not in the downtown student area I will have to
>> take two buses to get anywhere and it usually takes about two
>> hours.  Is this normal for a large town/small city?
>> 
>> The closest major city to me is Pittsburgh.  There is a bus that
>> goes there twice.  In order to take a grayhound bus, or AM track
>> train you have to somehow get to Pittsburgh.  Is the bus going twice
>> daily reasonable?
>> 
>> For those of you who live in college towns similar to this how do
>> you find a balance between taking cabs, using family and friends,
>> and taking the bus?
>> 
>> What is the cost monthly of owning a vehicle compared to taking
>> cabs all the time? I'm sorry to ask this...I've never been told.
>> 
>> I guess I am just asking these questions because I want to make
>> sure I'm not getting screwed so to speak.  I don't mind taking cabs,
>> but sometimes I feel like I'm just automatically expected to spend
>> the money just because...if you know what I mean by that! I've been
>> told owning a vehicle is several hundreds of dollars a month when
>> the cost of maintaenance, car payments, insurance, and gas is added
>> up but again these have just been from sighted people who don't
>> take cabs.  It seems like most other blind people I know don't take
>> cabs unless they absolutely have to and I hate having to do it all
>> the time.  In one sense I feel like I'm being told to go ahead,
>> don't worry about it, owning a vehicle is expensive too...but then
>> on the other hand so many blind people don't seem to like doing it.
>> I know each town is different...but if I want to go somewhere and
>> it's after 6 and the bus doesn't go are cabs or family/friends my
>> only options? I've never gone completely broke or run out of money
>> by taking cabs but again...I feel as if I'm getting mixed messages
>> and I want to make sure I'm doing the right/best thing.  From where
>> I live you can't walk anywhere as there are several things across
>> the street but it's not actually a street but a major six-lane
>> highway...so walking is out.  I'm not married and live alone.  Do
>> those of you who live in towns like this find yourselves having to
>> also take cabs more frequently than other blind people? I know my
>> questions seem a little crazy but I thought I'd ask them all in one
>> post.
>> 
>> Thanks so much!
>> 
>> Kerri
>> 
>> 
>>                      David Andrews:  dandrews at visi.com
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