[Blindtlk] Book players

Danielle Montour hypoplexer at gmail.com
Tue Oct 19 20:08:11 UTC 2010


Really? Thanks! I have the soft pack activated.  How do I do 
this?

Danni

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net
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Date sent: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 15:00:04 -0500
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Book players

Not if you have the softpak.  IF you have the softpak, (which 
costs $49.00) the stream can record in mp3 or .wav.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!

Skype Name:
barefootedray

On Oct 19, 2010, at 2:29 PM, Danielle Montour wrote:

 Yes, the victor has that as well, and quite clear, however, it 
is in a 3gp format, so it needs to be converted to play anywhere 
else.

 Danni

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Constance Canode <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net
 To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 07:30:08 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Book players

 The Book Sense also has a clock and some really cool alarm
 settings.  It also has a record feature, but I believe the 
Victor does as well.

 Connie
 At 11:56 PM 10/18/2010, you wrote:
 My friend loves her Bookport Plus.  I like that unlike the 
victor
 stream, the Bookport has a concept of time and has a clock, 
whereas
 the stream has neither.

 Danni

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: anjelinac26 at gmail.com
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 Date sent: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 00:01:01 -0400
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation 
questions

 The feature I most liked about the Bookport is it useddouble A 
batteries.

 Anjelina
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 18, 2010, at 7:03 PM, Mari Hunziker 
<marihunziker at gmail.com> wrote:

 So cool,Thanks, Mari Hunziker

 On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Danielle Montour 
<hypoplexer at gmail.com>wrote:

 Hi,
 For Gary: there is now the Bookport plus.  My friend has one.
 For Mari: you can also play mp3 files on your Victor Stream.  I 
have put
 audio described movies on mine before, and it's great to listen 
to on a car
 or plane ride.

 HTH

 Danni



 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Constance Canode <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net
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 Date sent: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 17:05:50 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation 
questions

 I have a Book Sense and Rick has the Victor Reader.  The Sense 
is
 smaller.  They both have good points.  I love the Book Sense.
 You
 can get the deluxe one with a radio in it, but I didn't get that 
one,
 just got the plain reading machine.  You can also put music on 
either
 device.

 Connie
 At 06:13 AM 10/18/2010, you wrote:
 Mary,

 For reading books, I would highly recommend the Victor Reader 
Stream.  It's
 small, can be worn with a shoulder strap, and you would read 
books while
 doing other tasks, during the day.

 Cindy

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Mari Hunziker" <marihunziker at gmail.com
 To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 10:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation 
questions


 Gary and Dave,
 What type of portable reader do you all use.  I have been 
wanting one for
 years.  I don't know how to read braille, although, I really do 
wish I did.
 I
 want to read more but I only get to when my kids will allow me 
to sit on my
 front porch swing.  I take out a small, easy to carry-up to my 
nose-book
 that
 I can use my magnifier with.  But sadly it takes me so long to 
read with
 the
 magnifier that I only get about 2-3 pages read if even that 
much.  Do you
 all
 use the Victor Reader Stream? I have been thinking about getting 
me one.
 What is your opinion on that.
 Thanks,
 Mari Hunziker

 On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 9:39 PM, David Andrews 
<dandrews at visi.com> wrote:

 Gary you are right!  I have a long commute, an hour 45 minutes 
each way.
 I
 skim half a dozen newspapers a day, on my stream, and read an 
average of a
 book every day and a half.  I love to read, and wouldn't want to 
give it
 up
 -- the commute is the perfect opportunity.

 Dave

 At 10:14 AM 10/12/2010, you wrote:

 I read a most interesting article several years ago and the 
thesis was
 that
 many of us would have an easier time with public transportation, 
where
 available, if we would see the time we spend in transit as a 
plus rather
 than a minus.  The article noted that many people who drive long 
distances
 to
 and from work complain about their inability to read, and yet 
writing
 while
 somebody else does the driving is a perfect way to have that 
time.  I
 don't
 think anything we can say will do away with the frustration that 
occurs
 when
 we realize some people can easily run to the store, but for most 
of us it
 takes more planning.  Still, I have to tell you that I have been 
much more
 peaceful about late cabs, buses, and airplanes just by having a 
portable
 reader in my pocket.

 Gary

 -----Original Message-----
 From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
 Behalf Of Cindy Handel
 Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 6:44 PM
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 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation 
questions

 Yes, it could be said that time is money.  But, I don't think 
they would
 accept "time" to pay for groceries!

 --------------------------------------------------
 From: "Steve P.  Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com
 Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 6:54 PM
 To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation 
questions

 Because you spend a great deal more time on parra-transit.  Time 
is
 money!
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net
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 Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 6:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation 
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 if a place is at least a 20 minute drive and by cab would cost 
about
 $25 each way and the dor-door or para trans bus is $4, why throw 
away
 the extra money?

 Bryan Schulz

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Steve P.  Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com
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 Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 5:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation
 questions


 Get a cab!
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Kerri Kosten" <kerrik2006 at gmail.com
 To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "Blind Talk Mailing List" 
<blindtlk at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 6:43 PM
 Subject: [Blindtlk] Grocery shopping, and transportation 
questions


 Hi All:

 I have some more questions about grocery shopping and
 transportation.
 Instead of making two separate posts, I figured I'd just put all 
my
 questions in one post...they are somewhat related to each other.

 I'll start with the grocery shopping questions.

 In the apartment building I live in, there is no elevator.
 Unfortunately I live on the third floor, which is up four 
flights
 of steps.  What is the best way to carry lots of groceries up 
the
 steps?
 Would it be okay, when having lots of groceries to set some of 
the
 bags on the floor in the hallway by the door, go up with as much 
as
 I can carry, then come back for the rest? Is there any better 
way
 to carry groceries than in the plastic bags the grocery bagger 
puts
 them in? I've been told about burlap sacks that you can carry on
 your shoulder...does this reduce the load much? I want to make 
this
 as easy as possible.

 How often do you usually go grocery shopping? When you go, do 
you
 just get the things you absolutely need, and keep the load as
 little as possible or do you usually take advantage of the fact 
you
 are at the store and get lots of stuff?

 My next questions are about transportation.  I live in a college
 town.
 I guess it's your typical college town.  It's big enough to be
 considered a small city or large town...we have five Krogers, 
four
 or more Walmarts...tons of restaurants and bars, two malls...two
 movie theaters.  It isn't a major city though.

 We do have a bus system but I've never been encouraged to use 
it.
 I've just been expected to take cabs everywhere.

 One of the problems though is that the town is not really a 
walking
 town...there are parts of it you can walk in but not very many.
 When things/places are built, often pedestrian accessibility is 
left
 out.

 There doesn't seem to be any blind people; there is no NFB 
chapter.
 So, naturally the majority of the people, including most of the
 students drive.  From what I've read on their website, the bus
 covers many areas, but usually until only 6 o'clock, unless it's
 downtown where the students are.  I don't live downtown though.
 Because of this, I find myself having to take cabs almost
 everywhere.  Cabs here are about $5-6 each way.  Is this normal 
for a
 college town? Is this expensive for a cab?

 Are my only options to either take the bus when it is available 
or
 take cabs?

 Should I just not worry about the expense and take cabs when and
 wherever?

 Is learning to use the bus hard or is it as simple as calling 
and
 asking the right questions?

 From what I can tell, from where I live, in order to take the 
bus

 again since I'm not in the downtown student area I will have to
 take two buses to get anywhere and it usually takes about two
 hours.  Is this normal for a large town/small city?

 The closest major city to me is Pittsburgh.  There is a bus that
 goes there twice.  In order to take a grayhound bus, or AM track
 train you have to somehow get to Pittsburgh.  Is the bus going 
twice
 daily reasonable?

 For those of you who live in college towns similar to this how 
do
 you find a balance between taking cabs, using family and 
friends,
 and taking the bus?

 What is the cost monthly of owning a vehicle compared to taking
 cabs all the time? I'm sorry to ask this...I've never been told.

 I guess I am just asking these questions because I want to make
 sure I'm not getting screwed so to speak.  I don't mind taking 
cabs,
 but sometimes I feel like I'm just automatically expected to 
spend
 the money just because...if you know what I mean by that! I've 
been
 told owning a vehicle is several hundreds of dollars a month 
when
 the cost of maintaenance, car payments, insurance, and gas is 
added
 up but again these have just been from sighted people who don't
 take cabs.  It seems like most other blind people I know don't 
take
 cabs unless they absolutely have to and I hate having to do it 
all
 the time.  In one sense I feel like I'm being told to go ahead,
 don't worry about it, owning a vehicle is expensive too...but 
then
 on the other hand so many blind people don't seem to like doing 
it.
 I know each town is different...but if I want to go somewhere 
and
 it's after 6 and the bus doesn't go are cabs or family/friends 
my
 only options? I've never gone completely broke or run out of 
money
 by taking cabs but again...I feel as if I'm getting mixed 
messages
 and I want to make sure I'm doing the right/best thing.  From 
where
 I live you can't walk anywhere as there are several things 
across
 the street but it's not actually a street but a major six-lane
 highway...so walking is out.  I'm not married and live alone.
 Do
 those of you who live in towns like this find yourselves having 
to
 also take cabs more frequently than other blind people? I know 
my
 questions seem a little crazy but I thought I'd ask them all in 
one
 post.

 Thanks so much!

 Kerri


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