[Blindtlk] inferiority complex???
cheryl echevarria
cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com
Wed Sep 1 18:06:42 UTC 2010
thank you Diane.
The biggest compliment you can pay me is to recommend my services!
Cheryl Echevarria
Independent Travel Consultant
C10-10646
http://Echevarriatravel.com
1-866-580-5574
skype: angeldn3
Reservations at echevarriatravel.com
Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Montrose Travel CST-1018299-10
Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise and Travel Inc.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Graves, Diane" <dgraves at icrc.IN.gov>
To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] inferiority complex???
> HiCheryl,
>
> No, I believe he is a member. He has posted regarding his company once
> before, and I believe he was to exhibit at the national convention. I was
> not in attendance this year, but I am thinking he was supposed to be an
> exhibitor.
>
>
> Diane Graves
> Civil Rights Specialist
> Indiana Civil Rights Commission
> Alternative Dispute Resolutions Unit
> 317-232-2647
>
> "It is service that measures success."
> George Washington Carver
>
> Confidentiality Notice: This E-mail transmission may contain confidential
> and/or legally privileged information intended only for the individual or
> entity(ies)
> named in the E-mail address. If you are not the intended recipient, be
> advised that any unauthorized disclosure, copying, distribution, or acting
> in reliance
> upon the contents of this E-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have
> received this E-mail transmission in error, please reply to sender to
> arrange for the return and proper delivery of the transmission.
> Subsequently, delete the message from your system immediately.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of cheryl echevarria
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 12:33 PM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] inferiority complex???
>
> is this guy spamming or is he a member
> The biggest compliment you can pay me is to recommend my services!
>
> Cheryl Echevarria
> Independent Travel Consultant
> C10-10646
>
> http://Echevarriatravel.com
> 1-866-580-5574
> skype: angeldn3
>
> Reservations at echevarriatravel.com
> Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Montrose Travel
> CST-1018299-10
> Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise and Travel
> Inc.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve P. Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com>
> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 12:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] inferiority complex???
>
>
> > Does the company carry K cups?
> > Steve
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Marty James" <blindamp at q.com>
> > To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 12:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] inferiority complex???
> >
> >
> > > Have you had a chance to check out the website? It is up and running,
> > > ready
> > > to take an order.
> > > Marty James
> > > www.TheBlindBean.com
> > > Enjoy Your Java!
> > >
> > > Phone: 319-457-3582
> > > Fax: 319-754-5226
> > > E-mail: Marty at theblindbean.com
> > >
> > > 402 Center Street
> > > Middletown, IA
> > > 52638
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Elizabeth Campbell" <batescampbell at charter.net>
> > > To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 7:58 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] inferiority complex???
> > >
> > >
> > >> Hi Marty!
> > >>
> > >> That's great you are exhibiting at the convention. I like seeing
> > >> people
> > >> whether blind or sighted use their ingenuity and make the best of
> > >> their
> > >> situations.
> > >>
> > >> Where is your company located? Also, will you have your coffees for
> > >> sale
> > >> in Dallas??
> > >>
> > >> Sincerely,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Liz Campbell
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Marty James" <blindamp at q.com>
> > >> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > >> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:34 AM
> > >> Subject: [Blindtlk] inferiority complex???
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>I am not sure what the big deal is, I lost my leg and my eyes at the
> > >>>same
> > >>>time and said how can I use this to my advantage...
> > >>> I was a graphic designer when I went blind so there is a little
> > >>> adjusting
> > >>> but I came up with a plan. I am now the owner of a company called
> > >>> The
> > >>> Blind Bean and I sell some of the best coffee beans in the country
> > >>> from
> > >>> all over the world. In fact, I am exhibiting at the NFB Convention
> > >>> this
> > >>> year, I hope you come by and see me!!
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
> > >>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 10:58 PM
> > >>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority
> > >>> complexwithdisabilityvsnondisabledsociety
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> On 6/2/10, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
> > >>>>> Peter:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> It strikes me that you're having a whale of a good time thinking
> > >>>>> of
> > >>>>> things a
> > >>>>> blind person *cannot* do. Tell me: do you really enjoy sitting on
> > >>>>> your
> > >>>>> posterior all day crying: "Woe is me?" Snap out of it. Were you to
> > >>>>> come
> > >>>>> to
> > >>>>> the NFB convention in Dallas, I bet I could introduce you to two
> > >>>>> or
> > >>>>> three
> > >>>>> farmers (which is two or three more farmers who are blind than
> > >>>>> sighted
> > >>>>> ones
> > >>>>> I know) and one of the members of the Board of Directors was a
> > >>>>> derry
> > >>>>> farmer
> > >>>>> for some time and may still do a bit of it.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Stop thinking of what blind folks *can't* do and start thinking:
> > >>>>> "What
> > >>>>> am
> > >>>>> *I* going to do with my life? What am I interested in? How much
> > >>>>> time,
> > >>>>> effort
> > >>>>> and energy am I willing to put into that interest?"
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Grab the world by the short hairs and tell it who's boss!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Mike
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>>> From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
> > >>>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 5:25 PM
> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority
> > >>>>> complexwithdisabilityvsnondisabledsociety
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Julie:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> How many blind people are farmers? I bet not even a percent and
> > >>>>>> I
> > >>>>>> bet they have firm rootxs from generation to generation within
> > >>>>>> their
> > >>>>>> church. So, the family of massive wealth resources also helps as
> > >>>>>> well.
> > >>>>>> They grow their own food and can be able. How well can they see?
> > >>>>>> Do
> > >>>>>> they have a spouse or other relative nearby? I know of this cause
> > >>>>>> I
> > >>>>>> know someone in a simular situation with his own acrage and has
> > >>>>>> his
> > >>>>>> sister to help out tremendously. Not all of us have relatives
> > >>>>>> alive
> > >>>>>> anymore or if so aren't functionally able to do so. I am just
> > >>>>>> saying.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 6/2/10, Julie J <julielj at windstream.net> wrote:
> > >>>>>>> What happens to the blind people who want to be farmers?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Just sayin' public transportation isn't the miracle cure for
> > >>>>>>> everything.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Julie
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>>>>> From: "Steve P. Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com>
> > >>>>>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 6:06 PM
> > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complexwith
> > >>>>>>> disabilityvsnondisabledsociety
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> You need to take responsibility and move to areas where there
> > >>>>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>> adequate
> > >>>>>>>> public transportation!
> > >>>>>>>> Steve
> > >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>>>>>> From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 6:00 PM
> > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complex with
> > >>>>>>>> disabilityvsnondisabledsociety
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> If personal responsability was a mantra strong enough how come
> > >>>>>>>>> it
> > >>>>>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>>> that blind people in particilar are not gainfully employed?
> > >>>>>>>>> Some
> > >>>>>>>>> areas
> > >>>>>>>>> don't facilitate transportation and I have been around
> > >>>>>>>>> virtually
> > >>>>>>>>> all
> > >>>>>>>>> types of blind people. There is a good number that can't get
> > >>>>>>>>> hired
> > >>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>> private companies in particilar go against it like Goergia
> > >>>>>>>>> Pacific
> > >>>>>>>>> or
> > >>>>>>>>> have halfway commitments like car plants. Then, government
> > >>>>>>>>> layoffs
> > >>>>>>>>> as
> > >>>>>>>>> well.
> > >>>>>>>>> Another thing is that many legallly blind people post about
> > >>>>>>>>> an
> > >>>>>>>>> almost completely blind prospective. Perhaps some of this can
> > >>>>>>>>> be
> > >>>>>>>>> done.
> > >>>>>>>>> However, I've ran across plenty of blind people in my opinion
> > >>>>>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>>>> have people pick up after them. I mean that it's not as
> > >>>>>>>>> independent
> > >>>>>>>>> cause they don't want to be or people pity them too much.
> > >>>>>>>>> There
> > >>>>>>>>> are
> > >>>>>>>>> limitations even with the best accessability and acknowledging
> > >>>>>>>>> them
> > >>>>>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>>> a good realistic approach. Then, my interests and dislikes and
> > >>>>>>>>> I've
> > >>>>>>>>> done that. I've researched these areas and what it boils down
> > >>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>>> insecurity with being blind.
> > >>>>>>>>> About my local NFB branch. Since Mike Jones has been away
> > >>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>> a
> > >>>>>>>>> unknown set time to Hawaii to the last time I've heard that
> > >>>>>>>>> Auburn's
> > >>>>>>>>> NFB is nothing? It's mainly in bigger cities. How do you meet
> > >>>>>>>>> blind
> > >>>>>>>>> people then? The Program for Students with Disabilities isn't
> > >>>>>>>>> a
> > >>>>>>>>> social
> > >>>>>>>>> networking site unfortunately. It is okay via e-mail and I
> > >>>>>>>>> have
> > >>>>>>>>> ran
> > >>>>>>>>> into three blind people here just one has left and that is
> > >>>>>>>>> about
> > >>>>>>>>> it.
> > >>>>>>>>> What would you do about choosing to change your major into
> > >>>>>>>>> something with more creativity or teaching that you won't be
> > >>>>>>>>> complained about doing cause they have already paid so much?
> > >>>>>>>>> Initially
> > >>>>>>>>> when I started college I wanted to be a lawyer but I realize
> > >>>>>>>>> they
> > >>>>>>>>> is a
> > >>>>>>>>> element of corruption and huge sin risks by word scrambling to
> > >>>>>>>>> suit
> > >>>>>>>>> your own agenda that I don't like at all. So, the psychology
> > >>>>>>>>> field,
> > >>>>>>>>> history and political science all weren't what I wanted. There
> > >>>>>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>>> this
> > >>>>>>>>> initative to get math and science students at Auburn to do
> > >>>>>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>>>> stuff.
> > >>>>>>>>> I have to take calculus 1 and or calculus 2 but I don't
> > >>>>>>>>> know
> > >>>>>>>>> neimith code. How logn do you think it could take someone with
> > >>>>>>>>> virtually no experience to learn the basics for that course? I
> > >>>>>>>>> might
> > >>>>>>>>> just get a tutor though and do it that way. If there is
> > >>>>>>>>> computer
> > >>>>>>>>> scientists on the list just e-mail me. I don't beleieve that
> > >>>>>>>>> blind
> > >>>>>>>>> people have to do all of this calculus information like some
> > >>>>>>>>> have
> > >>>>>>>>> fabricated though. Arrogance is hard to deal with supposedly
> > >>>>>>>>> successful blind people. I owuld like to own my own company!
> > >>>>>>>>> note: thanks to all of you
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On 6/2/10, Hyde, David W. (ESC) <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us>
> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>> Peter, I started to reply several times. Gary and Steve both
> > >>>>>>>>>> make
> > >>>>>>>>>> good
> > >>>>>>>>>> points. They said the things I wanted to say. Let me add that
> > >>>>>>>>>> I
> > >>>>>>>>>> know
> > >>>>>>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>>>>> I
> > >>>>>>>>>> wouldn't have had the type of encouragement I have had were
> > >>>>>>>>>> it
> > >>>>>>>>>> not
> > >>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>> being
> > >>>>>>>>>> blind. I have had the boone of meeting more successful people
> > >>>>>>>>>> than
> > >>>>>>>>>> most,
> > >>>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>> finding that they are willing to share their secrets (mostly
> > >>>>>>>>>> hard
> > >>>>>>>>>> work
> > >>>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>> techniques that make sense once you learn them) with me. They
> > >>>>>>>>>> then
> > >>>>>>>>>> expected
> > >>>>>>>>>> me to pass them on to others. I have learned to try my best.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> You sound like a fellow who has a number of things going on
> > >>>>>>>>>> at
> > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>> same
> > >>>>>>>>>> time. Please don't try to solve them all at once. If you can
> > >>>>>>>>>> prioritize
> > >>>>>>>>>> your
> > >>>>>>>>>> needs (it's hard, but it is the only way to get them all
> > >>>>>>>>>> down)
> > >>>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>> deal
> > >>>>>>>>>> with
> > >>>>>>>>>> them one at a time, you can see some progress. I think the
> > >>>>>>>>>> hardest
> > >>>>>>>>>> thing
> > >>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>> me to learn, and to explain is that it is acceptable to fail.
> > >>>>>>>>>> It
> > >>>>>>>>>> doesn't
> > >>>>>>>>>> mean that you are less of a person. Everyone fails at
> > >>>>>>>>>> something.
> > >>>>>>>>>> I
> > >>>>>>>>>> keep
> > >>>>>>>>>> trying new things, and I do some of them well, and some of
> > >>>>>>>>>> them
> > >>>>>>>>>> badly.
> > >>>>>>>>>> It's
> > >>>>>>>>>> interesting to see which I learn the most from.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Find some blind people who you like in your area. Find some
> > >>>>>>>>>> who
> > >>>>>>>>>> will
> > >>>>>>>>>> teach
> > >>>>>>>>>> you the things that they do. None of us would have planed to
> > >>>>>>>>>> be
> > >>>>>>>>>> blind,
> > >>>>>>>>>> had
> > >>>>>>>>>> we a choice. Since we didn't, some of us are happy,
> > >>>>>>>>>> successful,
> > >>>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>> satisfied with life anyway. As I write, I remember a book I
> > >>>>>>>>>> recently
> > >>>>>>>>>> read
> > >>>>>>>>>> by
> > >>>>>>>>>> a fellow named Mike May. Mike now runs Sendero Group, doing
> > >>>>>>>>>> GPS
> > >>>>>>>>>> systems.
> > >>>>>>>>>> He's a nice guy, and I met him long before he was successful.
> > >>>>>>>>>> The
> > >>>>>>>>>> book
> > >>>>>>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>>>> called Crashing Through. I found it interesting in that
> > >>>>>>>>>> Michael
> > >>>>>>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>>>> a
> > >>>>>>>>>> guy
> > >>>>>>>>>> who
> > >>>>>>>>>> just never learned to fail. He failed until he found ways to
> > >>>>>>>>>> succeed.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Don't know if this helps or not. Please let us know how
> > >>>>>>>>>> you're
> > >>>>>>>>>> doing.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>>>>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > >>>>>>>>>> On
> > >>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Dewey Bradley
> > >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 1:40 PM
> > >>>>>>>>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complex with
> > >>>>>>>>>> disabilityvsnondisabledsociety
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Garry makes some very good points indeed.
> > >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>>>>>>>> From: "Graves, Diane" <dgraves at icrc.IN.gov>
> > >>>>>>>>>> To: "'Gary Wunder'" <gwunder at earthlink.net>; "'Blind Talk
> > >>>>>>>>>> Mailing
> > >>>>>>>>>> List'"
> > >>>>>>>>>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:04 PM
> > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complex with
> > >>>>>>>>>> disabilityvsnondisabledsociety
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Peter,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Gary makes some very good points here as well. It would
> > >>>>>>>>>>> simply
> > >>>>>>>>>>> be
> > >>>>>>>>>>> untrue for me to tell you that there are no advantages to
> > >>>>>>>>>>> being
> > >>>>>>>>>>> sighted, or disadvantages to being blind. Just as there are
> > >>>>>>>>>>> advantages
> > >>>>>>>>>>> to having money, v. not having as much. If Bill Gates
> > >>>>>>>>>>> decides
> > >>>>>>>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>>>>>> he
> > >>>>>>>>>>> wants to order a pizza on a Friday night for dinner, he
> > >>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
> > >>>>>>>>>>> have
> > >>>>>>>>>>> to stop and think about whether or not he can afford it the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> way
> > >>>>>>>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I
> > >>>>>>>>>>> do.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> The point is though, that there are ways around most of
> > >>>>>>>>>>> these
> > >>>>>>>>>>> things.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> We find those ways, most of them are not insurmountable,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>>> we
> > >>>>>>>>>>> lead
> > >>>>>>>>>>> productive and full lives.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Diane Graves
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Civil Rights Specialist
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Indiana Civil Rights Commission
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Alternative Dispute Resolutions Unit
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 317-232-2647
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> "It is service that measures success."
> > >>>>>>>>>>> George Washington Carver
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Confidentiality Notice: This E-mail transmission may contain
> > >>>>>>>>>>> confidential and/or legally privileged information intended
> > >>>>>>>>>>> only
> > >>>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>>> the individual or
> > >>>>>>>>>>> entity(ies)
> > >>>>>>>>>>> named in the E-mail address. If you are not the intended
> > >>>>>>>>>>> recipient,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> be
> > >>>>>>>>>>> advised that any unauthorized disclosure, copying,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> distribution,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> or
> > >>>>>>>>>>> acting in reliance upon the contents of this E-mail is
> > >>>>>>>>>>> strictly
> > >>>>>>>>>>> prohibited. If you have received this E-mail transmission in
> > >>>>>>>>>>> error,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> please reply to sender to arrange for the return and proper
> > >>>>>>>>>>> delivery
> > >>>>>>>>>>> of the transmission.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Subsequently, delete the message from your system
> > >>>>>>>>>>> immediately.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>>>>>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > >>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Gary Wunder
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:25 PM
> > >>>>>>>>>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inferiority complex with disability
> > >>>>>>>>>>> vs
> > >>>>>>>>>>> nondisabledsociety
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Peter, you have asked many questions and I am certain in one
> > >>>>>>>>>>> sitting
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I
> > >>>>>>>>>>> can't begin to response to them all. Even this assumes I
> > >>>>>>>>>>> know
> > >>>>>>>>>>> all
> > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> answers, which I most certainly do not.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I throw out these ideas and observations with the suggestion
> > >>>>>>>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>>>>>> you
> > >>>>>>>>>>> take what you like and leave the rest. It does no good to
> > >>>>>>>>>>> compare
> > >>>>>>>>>>> yourself with what you might have been. In the first place,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> you
> > >>>>>>>>>>> don't
> > >>>>>>>>>>> know what you might have been. I might be angry because my
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Dad
> > >>>>>>>>>>> was
> > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> owner of a successful construction business which I could
> > >>>>>>>>>>> have
> > >>>>>>>>>>> run
> > >>>>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>>> might be far better off financially than I am now. Without
> > >>>>>>>>>>> sight,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I
> > >>>>>>>>>>> can't run the heavy equipment so perhaps I should be angry.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Because I
> > >>>>>>>>>>> am blind, I traveled a different road, went to college, got
> > >>>>>>>>>>> a
> > >>>>>>>>>>> degree,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> and work as a computer programmer. That college experience
> > >>>>>>>>>>> introduced
> > >>>>>>>>>>> me to good books, to different thoughts about the world, and
> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>> a
> > >>>>>>>>>>> tolerance of other people I'd never have gotten had I stayed
> > >>>>>>>>>>> at
> > >>>>>>>>>>> home.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Which life is the better? Unfortunately this is a question
> > >>>>>>>>>>> without an
> > >>>>>>>>>>> answer. I have to make of my life what is possible, without
> > >>>>>>>>>>> spending
> > >>>>>>>>>>> too much time grieving about some alternative future.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> In your note you acknowledge a lot of problems.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Acknowledging
> > >>>>>>>>>>> one
> > >>>>>>>>>>> has
> > >>>>>>>>>>> a problem is often the first step on the road to solving it,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> but
> > >>>>>>>>>>> sometimes that acknowledgement is simply a way of stating
> > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> problem
> > >>>>>>>>>>> and the more we state it, the more we come to like the way
> > >>>>>>>>>>> we
> > >>>>>>>>>>> say
> > >>>>>>>>>>> it.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> We grow accustomed to the burden of that problem, and rather
> > >>>>>>>>>>> than
> > >>>>>>>>>>> using our admission to solve it, we carry it like a badge of
> > >>>>>>>>>>> honor.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> In my own work, I can tell you that blineness makes many
> > >>>>>>>>>>> things
> > >>>>>>>>>>> hard
> > >>>>>>>>>>> which others find easy. They see computer screens and what
> > >>>>>>>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>>>>> wanted
> > >>>>>>>>>>> from them is obvious. I hear computer screens and have to
> > >>>>>>>>>>> often
> > >>>>>>>>>>> work
> > >>>>>>>>>>> pretty hard to figure out what is wanted and where I am on
> > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> screen.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I can make a real case for how disadvantaged this makes me,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> but
> > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> more important thing is that I figure it out and be
> > >>>>>>>>>>> productive
> > >>>>>>>>>>> enough
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I can bring home a pay check.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> You talk about the country in which you were born. There may
> > >>>>>>>>>>> be
> > >>>>>>>>>>> better
> > >>>>>>>>>>> countries in which to be blind, but I am certain the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> majority
> > >>>>>>>>>>> are
> > >>>>>>>>>>> worse.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> In
> > >>>>>>>>>>> your country you have the opportunity to make a contract
> > >>>>>>>>>>> with
> > >>>>>>>>>>> our
> > >>>>>>>>>>> people.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> That contract says that we, all of us, will help you with
> > >>>>>>>>>>> training
> > >>>>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>>> equipment if, in return, you will try your hardest to take
> > >>>>>>>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>>>>>> equipment and training and put it to a productive use -
> > >>>>>>>>>>> preferably a
> > >>>>>>>>>>> use which will pay you. You will then pay taxes, buy a home,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> support
> > >>>>>>>>>>> your local businesses, not to mention Wal-Mart, and everyone
> > >>>>>>>>>>> wins.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Winning isn't easy, but it is far easier than carrying
> > >>>>>>>>>>> around
> > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> anger for what you might have been if only you had tried.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Take your anger and, if you can, turn it into resolve. Look
> > >>>>>>>>>>> at
> > >>>>>>>>>>> your
> > >>>>>>>>>>> situation, acknowledge there are disadvantages, and at the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> same
> > >>>>>>>>>>> time
> > >>>>>>>>>>> determine how you can benefit from where you find yourself.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> If
> > >>>>>>>>>>> you
> > >>>>>>>>>>> constantly live with the dream of driving the car you once
> > >>>>>>>>>>> had,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> you'll
> > >>>>>>>>>>> be disappointed. If you live with the dream of the dcar
> > >>>>>>>>>>> which
> > >>>>>>>>>>> may
> > >>>>>>>>>>> come
> > >>>>>>>>>>> to be if we who are blind work together, then your sadness
> > >>>>>>>>>>> may
> > >>>>>>>>>>> just
> > >>>>>>>>>>> become a tool for hope.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I wish you all the luck in the world, and where luck stops
> > >>>>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>>> personal responsibility begins, I wish you the courage to
> > >>>>>>>>>>> take
> > >>>>>>>>>>> it
> > >>>>>>>>>>> on.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>>>>>>>>> blindtlk mailing list
> > >>>>>>>>>>> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> > >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account
> > >>>>>>>>>>> info
> > >>>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>>> blindtlk:
> > >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/dgraves%40ic
> > >>>>>>>>>>> rc.in.gov
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>>>>>>>>> blindtlk mailing list
> > >>>>>>>>>>> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> > >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account
> > >>>>>>>>>>> info
> > >>>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>>> blindtlk:
> > >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/dewey.bradle
> > >>>>>>>>>>> y%40att.net
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>>>>>>>> blindtlk mailing list
> > >>>>>>>>>> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> > >>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> > >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account
> > >>>>>>>>>> info
> > >>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>> blindtlk:
> > >>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/david.hyde%40wcbvi.k12.wi.us
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>>>>>>>> blindtlk mailing list
> > >>>>>>>>>> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> > >>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> > >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account
> > >>>>>>>>>> info
> > >>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>> blindtlk:
> > >>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/sunspot005%40gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>> Peter
> > >>>>>>>>> Webmaster
> > >>>>>>>>> http://www.darkstruggle.com
> > >>>>>>>>> webmaster at darkstruggle.com
> > >>>>>>>>> alternative e-mail
> > >>>>>>>>> sunspot005 at gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>>>>>>> blindtlk mailing list
> > >>>>>>>>> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> > >>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account
> > >>>>>>>>> info
> > >>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>> blindtlk:
> > >>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/stevep.deeley%40insightbb.com
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
> > >>>>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> > >>>>>>>> Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2914 - Release Date:
> > >>>>>>>> 06/02/10
> > >>>>>>>> 14:25:00
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> > >>>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> > >>>>>>> Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2914 - Release Date:
> > >>>>>>> 06/02/10
> > >>>>>>> 14:25:00
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>>>>>> blindtlk mailing list
> > >>>>>>>> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> > >>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> > >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account
> > >>>>>>>> info
> > >>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>> blindtlk:
> > >>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/julielj%40windstream.net
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>>>>> blindtlk mailing list
> > >>>>>>> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> > >>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account
> > >>>>>>> info
> > >>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>> blindtlk:
> > >>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/sunspot005%40gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> --
> > >>>>>> Peter
> > >>>>>> Webmaster
> > >>>>>> http://www.darkstruggle.com
> > >>>>>> webmaster at darkstruggle.com
> > >>>>>> alternative e-mail
> > >>>>>> sunspot005 at gmail.com
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>>>> blindtlk mailing list
> > >>>>>> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> > >>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
> > >>>>>> for
> > >>>>>> blindtlk:
> > >>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/k7uij%40panix.com
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>>> blindtlk mailing list
> > >>>>> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> > >>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> > >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
> > >>>>> for
> > >>>>> blindtlk:
> > >>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/sunspot005%40gmail.com
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Peter
> > >>>> Webmaster
> > >>>> http://www.darkstruggle.com
> > >>>> webmaster at darkstruggle.com
> > >>>> alternative e-mail
> > >>>> sunspot005 at gmail.com
> > >>>>
> > >>>> If you read all of my posts you would understand that I am not
> > >>>> making
> > >>>> up excuses. I have as an attestament to that being an individual
> > >>>> not
> > >>>> as a group. I want to brainstorm with people Mike. Do you
> > >>>> understand?
> > >>>> What are you guys's reading comprehension? I'm wondering cause I've
> > >>>> not stayed on the excuse bit just merely introduced my unique
> > >>>> problems
> > >>>> to you. However. on here people are mis informed on what I said.
> > >>>> I know that blind people have done programming and such. I want
> > >>>> to
> > >>>> know how they began that is all. I want updated practices like I
> > >>>> have
> > >>>> mentioned getting in contact with AFB Mentors on this same post. I
> > >>>> have posted a second thread as well. Dude if you can't understand
> > >>>> that
> > >>>> I can't see how any of you got degrees seriously. I asked specific
> > >>>> questions posted by blind professions with no answers on specifics
> > >>>> to
> > >>>> get started and understanding realistic approaches to complicated
> > >>>> problems. Why can't you guys understand this?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>> blindtlk mailing list
> > >>>> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> > >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> > >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
> > >>>> for
> > >>>> blindtlk:
> > >>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/blindamp%40q.com
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> blindtlk mailing list
> > >>> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> > >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> > >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
> > >>> for
> > >>> blindtlk:
> > >>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/batescampbell%40charter.net
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> blindtlk mailing list
> > >> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> > >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> > >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> > >> blindtlk:
> > >> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/blindamp%40q.com
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > blindtlk mailing list
> > > blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> > > blindtlk:
> > > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/stevep.deeley%40insightbb.com
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3104 - Release Date: 08/31/10
> > 02:34:00
> >
> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3104 - Release Date: 08/31/10
> 02:34:00
> > _______________________________________________
> > blindtlk mailing list
> > blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> > blindtlk:
> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/cherylandmaxx%40hotmail.com
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> blindtlk mailing list
> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> blindtlk:
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/dgraves%40icrc.in.gov
>
> _______________________________________________
> blindtlk mailing list
> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> blindtlk:
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/cherylandmaxx%40hotmail.com
>
More information about the BlindTlk
mailing list