[Blindtlk] Signing Your Name.

RJ Sandefur joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
Fri Apr 15 17:01:38 UTC 2011


David, When I went to the attorney, in order to discuss Mom's will, and 
since I'm part owner of the house, I had to sign my name. When I sign my 
name, I sign it (RJ) The Lawyer told me that this was not acceptable, and 
that I had to sign (Robert James Sandefur JR) However, I was only taught how 
to sign (RJ) and was told this was legally sufficient. I was taught this by 
my vision teacher. Who is right in this situation? The attorney, or my 
vision teacher? Sincerely, RJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net>
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Signing Your Name.


> Dear Mary,
>
> He is required to sign his forms and any other legal documents.
> He can sign with an "X" if that is all he can do and you can get a 
> statement, notarized that the "x" is his signature in all legal matters.
> You can also have him "sign" a power of Attorney, giving you the power to 
> sign for him in all legal matters.
> You would need to send a copy of this along with your tax returns to the 
> IRS.
> I am totally Blind and sign my name on checks and legal forms all of the 
> time and he can learn to do the same , if he wants too.
> It just sounds like he is hiding behind his blindness.  He is giving up 
> his independence because he is afraid to try.
> A signature guide would be just the thing to help him stay on the line and 
> keep from writing all over the place.
> I write from memory and I hardly ever even use a signature guide, except 
> when the place to sign is small and I have to be specific in its 
> placement.
>
> It sounds as if he maybe bitter and he is rebelling against his blindness 
> and the world by trying not to cooperate with you and do anything that 
> will show others he is blind and can not do things.
> He is just not trying to help himself or you for that matter.
> Good Luck with him.
> Try to get him around other positive blind people, who are doing the right 
> things and using their independence such as traveling independently.  It 
> will given time, rub off on him.
>
> David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mary Mc Gee" <mmcatitude at gmail.com>
> To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 12:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Signing Your Name.
>
>
>> Dear Fellow Federationists;
>>
>>            I need some original thinking here, I believe.  It's tax time
>> and, as you know, when you're married, sometimes you choose to file a 
>> joint
>> return, which both you and your spouse must sign.  I have no problem 
>> doing
>> this; I'm the one who prepares the thing with the Schedules, etc.  My
>> husband, who is totally blind, can't sign his name legibly.  (It's 
>> debatable
>> whether my signature is legible.)  Anyway, last year the IRS sent the 
>> return
>> back saying the "spouse's signature is not authentic".  The IRS accepted
>> mine but not his.  He refuses to use one of those signature guides or
>> anything else like that.  He writes at an angle and the letters overlap. 
>> He
>> says he shouldn't have to know how to sign his name.  I disagree.  Every
>> year at tax time we argue about this because he feels, being blind, he
>> shouldn't be expected to know how to make a legible signature.  I argue
>> that, since the majority of people working for the government are sighted
>> and the signature is your verification, you need to sign government
>> documents.
>>
>>            I guess my question is two-fold:
>>
>> 1.  Does anyone have any suggestions with respect to convincing him that 
>> he
>> needs to make a signature?
>>
>> 2.  Has anyone else had a document returned, when a blind person signed 
>> it
>> and the government refused to accept the signature?
>>
>>            Last near, I took the think to Sen. Harkin's office and
>> explained the problem.  I signed release, they took over and sent the 
>> return
>> to the IRS, and I never heard another word till our refund check came.
>>
>>            Thanks for your input.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Mary L. McGee
>>
>>
>>
>>
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