[Blindtlk] Eye Polking.

Fri Apr 29 12:53:06 UTC 2011

It will happen guys. It won't be any time soon, and, I'm wagering that most of us who have achieved middle age, will likely not see the car enter the mainstream. But, 10/20 years ago, the possibility was nothing more than a fairytale wish in the minds of the blind, so we have made very exciting strides indeed.
are 
Diane Graves
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From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Desiree Oudinot
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 12:09 AM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Eye Polking.

Yeah, but I'm not getting my hopes up, either. I predict that, even if
this car becomes legal and drivable in my lifetime, I'll be too old to
drive it when that time comes anyway. Unless I retain good health into
a ripe old age of course, but that's for the Lord to decide.

On 4/28/11, humberto <humbertoa5369 at netzero.net> wrote:
> I would wish that the blind driver challenge car that was debuted
> at the Daytona International speedway would be readily available
> and that legislations have passed so that we are able to drive a
> car without having to become sighted and learn to be sighted. I
> wish that this could happen really soon, and that blind people
> will be able to drive a car everywhere possible, and get to work,
> shop, and just have the freedom of driving! I believe that we
> don't have to become sighted if we want to drive; just watch how
> technology is growing in an area that it is growing now. So, I
> think one day, this Blind Driver challenge car would be on sail
> and so we can purchase it just like a sighted person would buy a
> car, and drive! not only that, but test drive the car before
> purchasing it so we have an idea of what it's like to drive the
> vehicle with innovative interfaces and technologies that can
> bridge the information gap, and make us make driving decisions,
> just like sighted people make driving decisions.
> Well, this is what I had to say.
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com
>>To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>Date sent: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 19:51:44 -0400
>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Eye Polking.
>
>>I definitely agree that the best part of having sight is to be
> able to
>>drive. You don't have near as many issues with reliability (i.e.
> is
>>your Paratransit system going to get you there on time? How about
> a
>>cab driver, and what if you can't afford that?) And if you live
> in a
>>rural area, forget all that entirely. It really is an
> inconvenience,
>>the only real disadvantage we face as blind people. Sighted
> people say
>>"yeah, but at least you don't have to deal with traffic, the
>>possibility of getting in an accident, or gas prices
> skyrocketing" to
>>which I say, "try being unable to get to an important job
> interview,
>>and not just one, because that could happen if your car breaks
> down,
>>but watch many opurtunities pass you by." The car is a powerful
> thing,
>>and unless you live within walking distance of stores, your job
> and
>>your house or apartment, it does present a huge challenge.
>
>>On 4/28/11, Sherri <flmom2006 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Basically, I agree with Mary. The most difficult part of being
> blind is
>>> transportation and getting from point A to B in an efficient and
>>> cost-effective manner. If I could see, I would want it just for
> the reason
>>> to drive. We need to hurry up with the car that blind people can
> drive. Then
>>> we need to get the legislation through so we can drive it. Not
> in my
>>> lifetime, I'm afraid!
>
>>> Sherri
>
>>> Please check out the link below and help blind people in your
> local area
>>> achieve their dreams by visiting
>>> http://www.raceforindependence.org/goto/Sherri.Brun
>>> Thank you.
>
>>> Character is the side of yourself you choose to show the world.
> Integrity is
>>> what you do, what you say and how you act when you think no one
> is paying
>>> attention.
>>> Sherri Brun
>>> flmom2006 at gmail.com
>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mary Mc Gee" <mmcatitude at gmail.com
>>> To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 3:35 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Eye Polking.
>
>
>>>> Hi, All;
>
>>>>            I've read with interest all the posts about
> blindisms.  I'll
>>>> hold to my opinion that they're behaviors that should be kept to
> the
>>>> privacy
>>>> of our own homes.  I perhaps should explain why.  And, by the
> way, there
>>>> are
>>>> behaviors that are acceptable among close friends that are OK
> and
>>>> blindisms
>>>> may be in that category.
>
>>>>            From my experiences, we're already considered objects
> of fear,
>>>> strange, weird, incompetent, etc. by the sighted world, or at
> least by a
>>>> good deal of it.  Therefore, we must do whatever it takes to
> dispel those
>>>> misconceptions.  It may not be just or right, but the world is
> sighted and
>>>> the behaviors that constitute fidgeting in sighted people are
> accepted
>>>> whereas blindisms are not acceptable.  The very fact they're
> called
>>>> "blindisms" is a stereotype and it may be somewhat of an
> accurate one
>>>> because I've never seen a sighted person poke their eye or spin
> around.
>>>> Sighted people click pens, tap feet, twirl bits of hair, pace
> back and
>>>> forth, pick fingers, cross and uncross their legs, and any
> number of other
>>>> things.  The fidgets are unlimited and, believe me, I've seen a
> lot of
>>>> them!
>
>
>>>>            Sighted people closely scrutinize us because they
> expect less
>>>> from us than they do from other sighted people.  Since we expect
> equality,
>>>> we must accept equal responsibility and part of that
> responsibility is
>>>> behaving is a socially acceptable manner when in public.
>
>>>>            I've actually had people tell me they've forgotten I
> can't see
>>>> much because I "don't act like a blind person".  When I've asked
> what's a
>>>> blind person supposed to act like, they say things like, oh, you
> know, you
>>>> can't find your way around, you have those weird habits like
> poling your
>>>> eyes.  I've also had people say I'm not really blind because I
> "act too
>>>> cool" to be blind.  The misconceptions are still out there, like
> it or
>>>> not.
>>>> And, we want to emphasize our similarities to the rest of the
> world rather
>>>> than our differences.  Therefore, we must promote a positive
> image.
>
>>>>            I may as well through this into the mix:  If I had a
> sure-fire
>>>> chance to have normal vision, I'd take it in a New York minute
> because I'd
>>>> like the freedom of driving!  Yes, I can function, work, and pay
> taxes,
>>>> but
>>>> I know I'd have a higher quality of life if I could drive.  So,
> I'd have
>>>> the
>>>> procedure, then head straight to IDOT and take drivers' ed!  But
> I repeat:
>>>> It would have to be sure-fire cure or I'd opt to stay the way I
> am.
>
>>>> Sincerely,
>
>>>> Mary L. McGee
>
>
>
>
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