[Blindtlk] Letter to the Editor: Diningin theDark events re:[blindtlk] fw: MIRA Foundation

Chris Nusbaum dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Sat Dec 17 02:05:17 UTC 2011 

Thank you, Ellen! Well, I'll try to download from NLS again and 
see if it works better, then try the Market.  You don't have to 
ship too far; I live pretty close!

Chris

"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The 
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that 
exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and 
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical 
nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind, 
1968-1986

 The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth 
in Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing 
assistive technology and scholarships to camps and conventions 
which help them be equal with their sighted peers.  For more 
information about the Foundation and to support our work, visit 
us online at www.icanfoundation.info!

 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Ringlein, Ellen" <ERinglein at nfb.org
To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 05:40:51 -0800
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Letter to the Editor: Diningin	theDark	
events	re:[blindtlk]	fw: MIRA Foundation

If you don't want to deal with downloading the audio, Walking 
Alone and Marching Together is available on CD from the NFB 
Independence Market for $10.00 plush shipping and handling.

http://secure.nfb.org/ecommerce/asp/product.asp?product=283&cat=4
8&ph=&keywords=&recor=&SearchFor=&PT_ID=

Cordially,

Ellen Ringlein
Manager, Independence Market
Jernigan Institute
NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND
200 East Wells Street at Jernigan Place
Baltimore, MD 21230
Phone: 410-659-9314 Ext.  2421
Fax: 410-685-2340
E-mail: ERinglein at nfb.org


Support the NFB Imagination Fund by texting the word BLIND to 
85944 to donate $10 via your phone bill.



-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 7:13 PM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Letter to the Editor: Dining in theDark 
events re:[blindtlk] fw: MIRA Foundation

I really need to read that book! I was going to download it from 
NLS WebBraille,  but you have to download each Braille volume 
separately, and Walking Alone has 11 volumes total! Wow! And I 
thought I was going to get a hardcopy and read it! I should 
probably just download the MP3 files onto my Stream from the NFB 
site, or get it on Bookshare.

Chris

"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The 
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that 
exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and 
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical 
nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind,
1968-1986

 The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth 
in Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing 
assistive technology and scholarships to camps and conventions 
which help them be equal with their sighted peers.  For more 
information about the Foundation and to support our work, visit 
us online at www.icanfoundation.info!

 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com
To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org Date sent: 
Wed, 14 Dec 2011 21:05:41 -0800
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Letter to the Editor: Dining in theDark
events	re:[blindtlk]	fw: MIRA Foundation

You're welcome, Ray.  As I say, the doctrine has little actual 
legal scope anymore but all-too-often lives on in the public 
mind.

I'd bet that if you put "Contributory Negligence" into the NFB 
site's search box, you'd get a slew of Monitor articles including 
one of mine and perhaps a reference or two or three in "Walking 
Alone ...".

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 5:19 PM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Letter to the Editor: Dining in the Dark 
events re:[blindtlk] fw: MIRA Foundation

Mike, being a history buff, I appreciate this little note.
thanks.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

Facebook:
facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1



On Dec 14, 2011, at 6:10 PM, Mike Freeman wrote:

 Humberto:

 At one time, there was a principle of law known as the "Doctrine 
of  Contributory Negligence".  It held that, simply by virtue of 
going out alone,  a blind person who had an accident was in part 
responsible for said  accident.  Thankfully, this began to be 
overruled as early as the 1860's.
It
 still holds sway surprisingly often in the mind of the public.

 Mike Freeman

 -----Original Message-----
 From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
 Behalf Of Humberto Avila
 Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 2:36 PM
 To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Letter to the Editor: Dining in the Dark 
events  re:[blindtlk] fw: MIRA Foundation

 Hello, a police officer asking a blind person the question, "why 
are you  going out so late at night?" when it is just 8:30 P.M.  
is very crazy and  ridiculous, and not just that.  It is just 
DARN  stupid! For once, that is  not the business or job of the 
law enforcement official, to stop a blind  person just because he 
or she is blind and he is going outside "so late"
 when it is not even midnight.  That has not happened to me, and 
none of my  blind friends that I have had said anything about 
similar experiences, in  fact it is the first time I hear this, 
on a blindness related listserve.
 Police officers should not, and can not, do this, unless I 
commit a crime.
 Or, is a person being blind and walking out in the street a 
crime? Really  crazy! It is simply not! I think this is the most 
extreme, and I say this  clearly, extreme and exaggerating way 
that someone will force misperceptions  and stereotypes about 
blindness.

 -----Original Message-----
 From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
 Behalf Of Sheila Leigland
 Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 1:22 PM
 To: Blind Talk Mailing List
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Letter to the Editor: Dining in the Dark 
events  re:[blindtlk] fw: MIRA Foundation

 Hello marion very well stated.  As a blind person I just want to 
live my life  and be able to walk down a street without being 
watched to see if I'm going  to need help or something like that.  
The idea that we are more courageous is  rediculous.  The 
stereotypes based on blindness ablone need to go and the  sooner 
the better.  We aren't childlike or innocent about the world 
around us  or at least I hope we aren't.  We were told one time 
that our canes were to  noisy and weren't there homes for your 
kind of people.  We have had police  ask us why we are on the 
streets so late at night, it was eight thirty in  the evening.

 Sheila Leiglan	d

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