[Blindtlk] Polocies Against The Blind...

Sat Dec 17 04:11:49 UTC 2011

Of course, the fact that people go out of their way to help us in one
situation doesn't invalidate your argument that sometimes they discriminate.
The fellow who offers to help me across the street may not give a second
thought when asked to seriously consider me for a job. Discrimination
doesn't have to spring from evil intentions; sometimes people discriminate
and have no idea they're doing it. That doesn't change the need for us to
recognize and address it.

Warmly,

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of James Kelm
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 2:02 PM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Polocies Against The Blind...

I also have a brother who has some of the same attitudes as yours do.  He
tells me that I am too sensitive, and may see discrimination where there
isn't any.  His favorite expression is that "you have to understand where
they are coming from".  Of course he lives on the other side of the country,
so does not experience life with a blind person on a day-to-day basis.  He
often tells me that people do not discriminate against the disabled, but
rather usually go out of their way to accommodate them.

Your Brother in Christ,
Pastor James Kelm
True Hope Church of Duluth
Web Site: www.thcduluth.org
Office E-mail: office at thcduluth.org
Phone: 218-727-4186

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jessica Kostiw" <jessicac.kostiw at gmail.com>
To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Polocies Against The Blind...

> I find this very interesting and forwarded it to both my brother and
sister,
> who are sighted lawyers.  Sometimes I think my family thinks I just make
> this stuff up.
>
> I wonder how new this policy is.  LCB staff and students donate blood
> regularly.  This is just awful.
>
> Jessica
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 1:50 PM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Polocies Against The Blind...
>
> I have given blood here in Minnesota through my employer to the red cross
> and I am finding it
> increasingly difficult to donate.  We have had other problems in the Twin
> Cities in the past that we
> tried to address, but I must say, not having an emergency exit policy is
> about the most blatent and
> least defensible thing I have heard.  Certainly you have a right to feel
> frustrated, but it does seem
> that there is work to be done as well.  I can't help but wonder what their
> general policy is to deal
> with someone who is half through giving blood and who might be dizzy if
> forced to stand in a hurry.  I
> would think that blindness would be the least of the problems that one
might
> have.  <smile>
>
> You might be interested to know that it is now common practice to not
permit
> someone you know to fill
> out the paperwork with you.  The justification is that you might not be
> honest with them in your
> answers.  This requires you to take the time of a staff person, and even
if
> they are willing, they are
> often required to tend to other tasks.
>
> Were you working with a branch of the Red Cross there in Duluth or is it
> another type of blood bank?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
> On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 12:22:35 -0600, James Kelm wrote:
>
> >Dear friends,
>
> >    Well an interesting thing happened to my wife and I last Friday, and
I
> >thought that I'd see what you all thought.  It seemed to be a relevant
> >story, based upon the recent conversations here on this list.
>
> >    Wanting to do something good for our fellow human beings, my wife and
I
> >decided that we would donate blood at one of our local blood banks.  We
> >arrived, filled out the necessary paper work, and waited in the waiting
> room
> >to do our duty.
>
> >    After a few minutes, a gentleman came out and requested that we
follow
> >him to his office.  I am assuming that this gentleman was some kind of a
> >manager.  After entering his office, he politely informed us that he had
> >spoken to his corporate office, and learned that they currently had no
> >policy in place to assure my safety in the case of an emergency, so
> >unfortunately they did not allow blind people to donate blood.  He then
> >turned to my wife, who is sighted but like many middle-aged people, wears
> >reading glasses.  The gentleman went on to explain that unless my wife
went
> >home to retrieve her reading glasses and thereby demonstrating that she
was
> >not blind, they also would not allow her to donate.  I politely explained
> >that the corporate office should be aware that their company policy
> violated
> >Federal anti-discrimination laws, and they did not have the legal luxury
of
> >determining which laws they were, or were not prepared to follow.  The
> >gentleman told me that he understood, but that he had to comply with his
> >corporate office's instructions to not allow the blind to donate blood.
>
> >    This situation came as a bit of surprise to me.  Of course most of us
> >blind folks are use to vague and concealed discrimination, but I was
caught
> >off guard to face such an open and obvious demonstration of one's civil
> >rights being disregarded.  It was rather shocking to be directly told by
a
> >business, that they did not want the blind!
>
>
> >Your Brother in Christ,
> >Pastor James Kelm
> >True Hope Church of Duluth
> >Web Site: www.thcduluth.org
> >Office E-mail: office at thcduluth.org
> >Phone: 218-727-4186
>
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