[Blindtlk] Who Bathes You?
David Evans
drevans at bellsouth.net
Fri Mar 4 18:56:00 UTC 2011
Dear Gloria,
I got a million of them.
David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gloria Whipple" <ladygloria at webband.com>
To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Who Bathes You?
> David,
>
> What a great sense of humor!
>
>
> Gloria Whipple
> Corresponding Secretary
> Inland Empire chapter
> nfb of WA
>
> cell: 509-475-4993
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of David Evans
> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 10:08 AM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Who Bathes You?
>
>
> Dear All,
>
> I have had my share of "How do you" questions in my life.
> I have been asked how do I drive and get around as an example. I have
> answered many times that I just roll the passenger side window down and
> drag
>
> my cane tip along the curb. Curb feelers are legal you know."
>
> I have kidded that I have a guide dog that is cross bread with a greyhound
> and runs along side the car on the drivers side when I drive on the
> freeway.
>
> I have had a guy ask me how I use that cane to find my way around and I
> joked that it works like a "divining rod" to find my way to where I want
> to
> go by smelling where other people have walked. An assistant to Doctor Carl
> Sagan, from the Nova TV show, once ask me how I knew where I was going
> and
> how I knew when I arrived. I teased him by saying that it was simple
> physics. I just followed a path where nothing got in my way and I stopped
> when something did. He said that he thought that was logical.
>
> I tend to give smart lick answers to such questions, but at most times
> give
> people a good straight answer with the logic behind it depending on the
> person and my mood.
>
> David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack
> Former Nuclear/Aerospace Materials Engineer and builder of the Lunar
> Rovers
> and the F-117 Stealth Fighter
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michelle Medina" <michellem86 at gmail.com>
> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 10:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Who Bathes You?
>
>
>> OMG!!!! Depending on how one looked at that, it'd be either hilarious
>> or not so hilarious *say the person who was asked that question is
>> super sensitive about the fact that they can't drive* for example.
>> Again, I am stunned!
>>
>> On 3/4/11, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I have actually had that question too. Yesterday I think topped that
>>> though.
>>> I was at my college, walking with my guide dog. I mean actually holding
>>> on
>>> to the harness handle and all. I got a bit lost, or turned around. And
>>> stopped to ask directions. So a nice lady started to walk the way I did.
>>> So
>>> here I am walking with my guide, can't see a bit in the world, and she
>>> asks
>>> me if I can drive? Oh and my guide dog has a sign on it saying, I am a
>>> working dog do not pet. My harness says Seeing eye. Hello? LOL
>>>
>>> I was very polite, but thought afterwards, wow. Hope she wasn't a
>>> professor
>>> LOL
>>>
>>> marsha
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Jeanette Fortin
>>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 9:38 AM
>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Who Bathes You?
>>>
>>> WELL I have had folks ask me who cooks for my kids and how much help do
>>> i
>>> have come in to help, none, when we lived on the island we had a maid
>>> but
>
>>> it
>>>
>>> was in support of the local islanders who needed work on the island to
>>> support families, i also homeschooled my kids and folks couldn't imagine
>>> how
>>>
>>> a blind person could teach anything, really?
>>> just amazing, jeanette
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:11 AM
>>> Subject: [Blindtlk] Who Bathes You?
>>>
>>>
>>>>I went to see a dermatologist once who said, You're really clean! Who
>>>>bathes you?" I expressed my dismay that a well educated person like a
>>>>doctor would ask such an offensively stereotypical question, as I took
>>>>out
>>>>my business card and handed it to him.Then I asked him "Who bathes you?"
>>>>He
>>>
>>>>apologized profusely, sharing that he understands how I feel because he
>>>>has
>>>
>>>>a clubbed foot! There's no accounting for convoluted logic! In the words
>>>>of
>>>
>>>>Archie Bunker, "That's the kind of straight thinking we need nowadays!"
>>>>
>>>> Fraternally yours,
>>>> Marion
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Michelle Medina" <michellem86 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 12:05 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Responses of Medical Professionals.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I'd have been absolutely furious!!!! In fact, I must confess, I may
>>>>> have accidentally *purposely* stabbed her hand or arm as my food was
>>>>> spinning by.
>>>>> Chelle
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/3/11, Hyde, David W. (ESC) <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us> wrote:
>>>>>> When I was a kid in Oregon, most blind children were treated at the
>>>>>> University of Oregon Medical School. Being an RLF (now ROP, nothing's
>>>>>> changed but the initials) child, all the interns took a look at me.
>>>>>> Looking
>>>>>> back, I don't remember any of them introducing themselves, but they
>>>>>> sure
>>>>>> loved working with the pressure gage and the slit lamp.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My best medical story, though, comes from eye surgery in the
>>>>>> seventies.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> was in the hospital after surgery, and was getting my first real
>>>>>> meal.
>
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> know that there was something on my chart that said I was blind,
>>>>>> since,
>>>>>> after all, the bandages over the eyes wouldn't give any clue. The
>>>>>> service
>>>>>> staff came in, and put the food tray on the table over the bed, and I
>>>>>> thanked her, assuming our interaction was done. She looked at me,
>>>>>> looked
>>>
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> my wife who was in the room, and turned the tray 180 degrees. I
>>>>>> thanked
>>>>>> her
>>>>>> again. She looked back at me, back at my wife and turned it again.
>>>>>> After
>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> third iteration, I confess I lost my patience and asked if I was just
>>>>>> supposed to use a fork to stab something as it went by.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's funny now, but frustrating then.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>> On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Mary Mc Gee
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 3:11 PM
>>>>>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Responses of Medical Professionals.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Fellow Federationists;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've read with interest all the posts about experiences
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> health care providers' offices. I have some experiences I can throw
>>>>>> into
>>>>>> the mix.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First, I'll say that, because the cause of my blindness
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> albinism, I had a unique appearance that was impossible to hide when
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> younger. I was a student at the Iowa Braille and Sight Saving School
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> ten years and, during that time, I went to the University of Iowa for
>>>>>> free
>>>>>> eye care-at least "they" called it eye care. It was more on the
>>>>>> order
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> eye study because every med student, intern, and ophthalmology
>>>>>> resident
>>>>>> had
>>>>>> to come examines the "albinotic eye" before I received any low vision
>>>>>> glasses, etc. that would actually improve what little vision I have.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> felt
>>>>>> like a zoo or circus animal on display because I was a condition
>>>>>> rather
>>>>>> than
>>>>>> a person. It hurt a lot and I'm not simply talking about all the
>>>>>> lights
>>>>>> shining in my eyes, but also the emotional pain it caused.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As an adult I've had some doctors who have been very nice
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> some who haven't. The number of nice ones directly correlates with
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> various degrees-all doctors and staffs are nice now that I put
>>>>>> "Attorney" on
>>>>>> their intake forms.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But, when I first came to Des Moines in 1976, visited a
>>>>>> neurologist because of migraine headaches. He spent more time
>>>>>> looking
>>>>>> at my
>>>>>> eyes than he did taking a history of the headaches. I went to one
>>>>>> doctor
>>>>>> whose office staff handed the intake form to my driver too complete
>>>>>> until I
>>>>>> complained. One time, when I went to an orthopedic surgeon's office
>>>>>> for
>>>
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> expert consult to prepare for trial, I was greatly surprised that she
>>>>>> spent
>>>>>> fifteen minutes asking about my vision instead of my client's
>>>>>> treatment.
>>>
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> simply told her that, if she billed for those extra minutes, she
>>>>>> wouldn't be
>>>>>> paid, because I would deduct that amount of time from my bill back to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> client. She didn't argue and even apologized.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm fortunate that I currently have a sensitive, caring
>>>>>> group of
>>>>>> physicians. I'll have to admit, though, that the trauma of the past
>>>>>> plus my
>>>>>> attorney's skepticism is quite hard to eliminate when I meet a new
>>>>>> one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Iowa Department for the Blind has been doing a PR
>>>>>> project
>>>>>> with health care providers to educate them with the hope that fewer
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> will have unpleasant experiences when they need help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd be interested in hearing if any of you, like me, were
>>>>>> treated as a medical oddity at any time.
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mary L. McGee
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>> I'D LIKE TO SEE, HOW YOU ALL WOULD BLEED FOR ME!" -LAYNE STALEY -
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>> "THESE STAND FOR ME, NAME YOUR GOD AND BLEED THE FREAK!
>> I'D LIKE TO SEE, HOW YOU ALL WOULD BLEED FOR ME!" -LAYNE STALEY -
>> "BLEED THE FREAK"
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