[Blindtlk] Who Bathes You?

[Michelle Medina]

Lol!

On 3/4/11, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
> Yeah, Dr. Maurer would just love this one.
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
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> On Mar 4, 2011, at 12:54 PM, David Evans wrote:
>
>>
>> Dear Ray,
>>
>> How about a banquet speech instead.
>>
>> David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 1:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Who Bathes You?
>>
>>
>>> Somehow, I see a monitor article coming out of this.  Thoughts Gary?  Or,
>>> am I being presumptuous?
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>
>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>> Skype name:
>>> barefootedray
>>>
>>> Facebook:
>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>>
>>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Bernadetta Pracon wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Everyone:
>>>> While I agree with the opinion that we  should probably refrain from
>>>> using inflammatory phrases or words based on the fact that this list is
>>>> publicly archived, I see another side to this argument. Sure, most
>>>> people who don't normally encounter those of us who are   blind or
>>>> visually impaired are not going to know very much about how we live day
>>>> to day. They  will most likely have some   preconceived assumptions
>>>> about us. But just because they do not know much about blindness does
>>>> not mean we have to acquiesse to their ignorance. Of course, we can't
>>>> verbally beat them up for assuming things about us, and we should
>>>> educate where necessary, but we are allowed to have our rants now and
>>>> then. Especially when the comments and assumptions made about us are
>>>> overly ignorant and in a way, almost insulting. In many cases, these
>>>> people are well meaning, and they are not conscious that their
>>>> assumptions are rediculous to us, and with a little bit of education
>>>> they get on the right track.
>>>> However, a comment such as "who bathes you", said from one grown man to
>>>> another, not to mention a doctor, is sort of inexcusable. It's the kind
>>>> of question a child would ask, because they really didn't know any
>>>> better. Someone educated to be a doctor should most certainly know
>>>> better. Therefore, I think we can allow ourselves a little leeway
>>>> regarding etiquette under the circumstance.
>>>> And look at it this way: If a sighted person does see a message on this
>>>> topic with the word "idiot" in it, they might just wake up to the fact
>>>> that blind people aren't angels who won't flinch under the weight of
>>>> insult and ignorance. I say this not to be a radical snob, but because I
>>>> realize that sometimes, sighted people expect us to be docile,
>>>> well-behaved people due to our disibility, and it's not welcome or
>>>> expected of us to express  our feelings of shock and  ridicule. If they
>>>> see a little rant now and then as a response to something ignorant that
>>>> was said, it might just make us appear a little more human. Of course,
>>>> it's a given to us that we are every bit as human as our sighted
>>>> counterparts, but our response to this sort of thing might just make
>>>> that point come across a little more clearly.
>>>> Now, I am not at all suggesting we throw away all inhibitions and start
>>>> writing posts that are dirogatory. We shouldn't go around calling people
>>>> names such as idiot and the like. That's not right, and it doesn't
>>>> accomplish anything. That being said, I have to admit against my better
>>>> judgement, that sometimes, they just plain ask for it.
>>>>
>>>> On a lighter note:
>>>> I think that Marion's response to the doctor was witty and clever.
>>>> Definitely better than if he had called him an idiot. lol
>>>>
>>>> Just my two cents guys. Sorry for the somewhat lengthy post.
>>>>
>>>> All Best,
>>>> Bernadetta
>>>>
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