[Blindtlk] Who Bathes You?
Raquel Vega
diva_bear at pacbell.net
Sat Mar 5 00:20:45 UTC 2011
I felt let down. I mean I'd guess if I hadn't known her, I'd just guess she
was misinformed, but I'd known this woman for about 10 years. Logically I
know that sometimes doesn't mean anything, but still felt let down. She to
is a doctor, O BG Y N.
Avon products:
Raquel Vega
e-mail
Diva_bear at pacbell.net
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From: "Michelle Medina" <michellem86 at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 3:06 PM
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Who Bathes You?
> Definitely Raquel! I to plan to have a baby, irrespective of what anyone
> thinks!
>
> On 3/4/11, Raquel Vega <diva_bear at pacbell.net> wrote:
>> Oh no, I get all kind of responses when I tell folks I wanna have a
>> baby. It's sad, most are good people, just misinformed I'd guess. I had a
>> friend I knew for years, I thought she really didn't think anything of my
>> blindness. Then I talked about having babies. I told her of a friend I
>> knew
>> and she was relived when I said her boyfriend was sighted. She asked
>> using
>> this example. What if you're out in the yard, and a wasp comes and stings
>> the baby, I told her that could have easily happened to a sighted parent.
>> She didn't even acknowledge what I'd said.
>> It's sad and frustrating.
>> Raquel
>> Avon products:
>> Raquel Vega
>> e-mail
>> Diva_bear at pacbell.net
>>
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>> From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 6:48 AM
>> To: "Jeanette Fortin" <jeanette at fortin-home.com>; "Blind Talk Mailing
>> List"
>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Who Bathes You?
>>
>>> and I thought I had heard it all. My oh my.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>
>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>> Skype name:
>>> barefootedray
>>>
>>> Facebook:
>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>>
>>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Jeanette Fortin wrote:
>>>
>>>> WELL I have had folks ask me who cooks for my kids and how much help do
>>>> i
>>>>
>>>> have come in to help, none, when we lived on the island we had a maid
>>>> but
>>>>
>>>> it was in support of the local islanders who needed work on the island
>>>> to
>>>>
>>>> support families, i also homeschooled my kids and folks couldn't
>>>> imagine
>>>> how a blind person could teach anything, really?
>>>> just amazing, jeanette
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marion Gwizdala"
>>>> <blind411 at verizon.net>
>>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:11 AM
>>>> Subject: [Blindtlk] Who Bathes You?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I went to see a dermatologist once who said, You're really clean! Who
>>>>> bathes you?" I expressed my dismay that a well educated person like a
>>>>> doctor would ask such an offensively stereotypical question, as I took
>>>>> out my business card and handed it to him.Then I asked him "Who bathes
>>>>> you?" He apologized profusely, sharing that he understands how I feel
>>>>> because he has a clubbed foot! There's no accounting for convoluted
>>>>> logic! In the words of Archie Bunker, "That's the kind of straight
>>>>> thinking we need nowadays!"
>>>>>
>>>>> Fraternally yours,
>>>>> Marion
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michelle Medina"
>>>>> <michellem86 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 12:05 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Responses of Medical Professionals.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd have been absolutely furious!!!! In fact, I must confess, I may
>>>>>> have accidentally *purposely* stabbed her hand or arm as my food was
>>>>>> spinning by.
>>>>>> Chelle
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/3/11, Hyde, David W. (ESC) <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us> wrote:
>>>>>>> When I was a kid in Oregon, most blind children were treated at the
>>>>>>> University of Oregon Medical School. Being an RLF (now ROP,
>>>>>>> nothing's
>>>>>>> changed but the initials) child, all the interns took a look at me.
>>>>>>> Looking
>>>>>>> back, I don't remember any of them introducing themselves, but they
>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>> loved working with the pressure gage and the slit lamp.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My best medical story, though, comes from eye surgery in the
>>>>>>> seventies. I
>>>>>>> was in the hospital after surgery, and was getting my first real
>>>>>>> meal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> know that there was something on my chart that said I was blind,
>>>>>>> since,
>>>>>>> after all, the bandages over the eyes wouldn't give any clue. The
>>>>>>> service
>>>>>>> staff came in, and put the food tray on the table over the bed, and
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> thanked her, assuming our interaction was done. She looked at me,
>>>>>>> looked at
>>>>>>> my wife who was in the room, and turned the tray 180 degrees. I
>>>>>>> thanked her
>>>>>>> again. She looked back at me, back at my wife and turned it again.
>>>>>>> After the
>>>>>>> third iteration, I confess I lost my patience and asked if I was
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> supposed to use a fork to stab something as it went by.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's funny now, but frustrating then.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Mary Mc Gee
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 3:11 PM
>>>>>>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Responses of Medical Professionals.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Fellow Federationists;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've read with interest all the posts about experiences
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> health care providers' offices. I have some experiences I can throw
>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>> the mix.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First, I'll say that, because the cause of my blindness
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> albinism, I had a unique appearance that was impossible to hide when
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> younger. I was a student at the Iowa Braille and Sight Saving
>>>>>>> School
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> ten years and, during that time, I went to the University of Iowa
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>> eye care-at least "they" called it eye care. It was more on the
>>>>>>> order
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> eye study because every med student, intern, and ophthalmology
>>>>>>> resident had
>>>>>>> to come examines the "albinotic eye" before I received any low
>>>>>>> vision
>>>>>>> glasses, etc. that would actually improve what little vision I have.
>>>>>>> I felt
>>>>>>> like a zoo or circus animal on display because I was a condition
>>>>>>> rather than
>>>>>>> a person. It hurt a lot and I'm not simply talking about all the
>>>>>>> lights
>>>>>>> shining in my eyes, but also the emotional pain it caused.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As an adult I've had some doctors who have been very nice
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> some who haven't. The number of nice ones directly correlates with
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> various degrees-all doctors and staffs are nice now that I put
>>>>>>> "Attorney" on
>>>>>>> their intake forms.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But, when I first came to Des Moines in 1976, visited a
>>>>>>> neurologist because of migraine headaches. He spent more time
>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> at my
>>>>>>> eyes than he did taking a history of the headaches. I went to one
>>>>>>> doctor
>>>>>>> whose office staff handed the intake form to my driver too complete
>>>>>>> until I
>>>>>>> complained. One time, when I went to an orthopedic surgeon's office
>>>>>>> for an
>>>>>>> expert consult to prepare for trial, I was greatly surprised that
>>>>>>> she
>>>>>>> spent
>>>>>>> fifteen minutes asking about my vision instead of my client's
>>>>>>> treatment. I
>>>>>>> simply told her that, if she billed for those extra minutes, she
>>>>>>> wouldn't be
>>>>>>> paid, because I would deduct that amount of time from my bill back
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> client. She didn't argue and even apologized.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm fortunate that I currently have a sensitive, caring
>>>>>>> group of
>>>>>>> physicians. I'll have to admit, though, that the trauma of the past
>>>>>>> plus my
>>>>>>> attorney's skepticism is quite hard to eliminate when I meet a new
>>>>>>> one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Iowa Department for the Blind has been doing a PR
>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>> with health care providers to educate them with the hope that fewer
>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> will have unpleasant experiences when they need help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd be interested in hearing if any of you, like me, were
>>>>>>> treated as a medical oddity at any time.
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mary L. McGee
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> "FUCK YOU FOR KILLING ME!!!!" SHAUN MORGAN - "NEEDLES"
>>>>>> "THESE STAND FOR ME, NAME YOUR GOD AND BLEED THE FREAK!
>>>>>> I'D LIKE TO SEE, HOW YOU ALL WOULD BLEED FOR ME!" -LAYNE STALEY -
>>>>>> "BLEED THE FREAK"
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> --
> "FUCK YOU FOR KILLING ME!!!!" SHAUN MORGAN - "NEEDLES"
> "THESE STAND FOR ME, NAME YOUR GOD AND BLEED THE FREAK!
> I'D LIKE TO SEE, HOW YOU ALL WOULD BLEED FOR ME!" -LAYNE STALEY -
> "BLEED THE FREAK"
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