[Blindtlk] Who Bathes You?

humberto humbertoa5369 at netzero.net
Sat Mar 5 04:03:34 UTC 2011


Yes, we need to put together an article on our favorite 
publication, the Braille Monitor.  We must.  Mr.  Wunder, Please 
consider this request.  I want to see how we can change readers' 
opinions by bringing it into attention with an article about 
this.  According to the journalism code of ethics, we are the 
voice, and we give voice to the voiceless.  I mean by that, an 
article on the Braille Monitor would really help get rid of 
misconceptions.
Oh, and I have an idea too.  The article, if it is to be written, 
should be titled with the same question as the subject of this 
email: "Who Bathes you?"


> ----- Original Message -----
>From: Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net
>To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 12:44:34 -0600
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Who Bathes You?

>Somehow, I see a monitor article coming out of this.  Thoughts 
Gary?  Or, am I being presumptuous?


>Sincerely,
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>On Mar 4, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Bernadetta Pracon wrote:

>> Hi Everyone:
>> While I agree with the opinion that we  should probably refrain 
from using inflammatory phrases or words based on the fact that 
this list is publicly archived, I see another side to this 
argument.  Sure, most people who don't normally encounter those 
of us who are   blind or visually impaired are not going to know 
very much about how we live day to day.  They  will most likely 
have some   preconceived assumptions about us.  But just because 
they do not know much about blindness does not mean we have to 
acquiesse to their ignorance.  Of course, we can't verbally beat 
them up for assuming things about us, and we should educate where 
necessary, but we are allowed to have our rants now and then.  
Especially when the comments and assumptions made about us are 
overly ignorant and in a way, almost insulting.  In many cases, 
these people are well meaning, and they are not conscious that 
their assumptions are rediculous to us, and with a little bit of 
education they get on the right track.
>> However, a comment such as "who bathes you", said from one grown 
man to another, not to mention a doctor, is sort of inexcusable.  
It's the kind of question a child would ask, because they really 
didn't know any better.  Someone educated to be a doctor should 
most certainly know better.  Therefore, I think we can allow 
ourselves a little leeway regarding etiquette under the 
circumstance.
>> And look at it this way: If a sighted person does see a message 
on this topic with the word "idiot" in it, they might just wake 
up to the fact that blind people aren't angels who won't flinch 
under the weight of insult and ignorance.  I say this not to be a 
radical snob, but because I realize that sometimes, sighted 
people expect us to be docile, well-behaved people due to our 
disibility, and it's not welcome or expected of us to express  
our feelings of shock and  ridicule.  If they see a little rant 
now and then as a response to something ignorant that was said, 
it might just make us appear a little more human.  Of course, 
it's a given to us that we are every bit as human as our sighted 
counterparts, but our response to this sort of thing might just 
make that point come across a little more clearly.
>> Now, I am not at all suggesting we throw away all inhibitions 
and start writing posts that are dirogatory.  We shouldn't go 
around calling people names such as idiot and the like.  That's 
not right, and it doesn't accomplish anything.  That being said, 
I have to admit against my better judgement, that sometimes, they 
just plain ask for it.

>> On a lighter note:
>> I think that Marion's response to the doctor was witty and 
clever.  Definitely better than if he had called him an idiot.  
lol

>> Just my two cents guys.  Sorry for the somewhat lengthy post.

>> All Best,
>> Bernadetta

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