[Blindtlk] Does She Need to go to the Bathroom?Re: Who Bathes You?
Marion Gwizdala
blind411 at verizon.net
Sat Mar 5 14:02:25 UTC 2011
Dear All,
Though the "Who bathes you?" is an insulting question that was asked
about 10 years ago, I would like to share another. A friend of mine who uses
a guide dog came to my mother-in-law's funeral last week. I didn't bring my
guide dog for personal reasons, opting to use my white cane. As we were
entering the chapel, someone from the funeral home came up to me and asked,
"Does she need to go to the bathroom?" My response, of course, was, "I
don't know! You will have to ask her?" I guess sighted people know when
someone else needs to go potty, so they think blind people can tell, too!
They certainly seemed confused when we don't have the same abilities as
they!
Fraternally yours,
Marion
think blind people share a lot....including bladders!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gloria Whipple" <ladygloria at webband.com>
To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Who Bathes You?
> Here is another one. How about who dresses you!
>
> I have had many people ask me who dresses me. I did have a flippant
> answer,
> but I tell them that I am capable of dressing myself.
>
>
> Gloria Whipple
> Corresponding Secretary
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> nfb of WA
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Michelle Medina
> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 7:32 AM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Who Bathes You?
>
> OMG!!!! Depending on how one looked at that, it'd be either hilarious
> or not so hilarious *say the person who was asked that question is
> super sensitive about the fact that they can't drive* for example.
> Again, I am stunned!
>
> On 3/4/11, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have actually had that question too. Yesterday I think topped that
> though.
>> I was at my college, walking with my guide dog. I mean actually holding
>> on
>> to the harness handle and all. I got a bit lost, or turned around. And
>> stopped to ask directions. So a nice lady started to walk the way I did.
> So
>> here I am walking with my guide, can't see a bit in the world, and she
> asks
>> me if I can drive? Oh and my guide dog has a sign on it saying, I am a
>> working dog do not pet. My harness says Seeing eye. Hello? LOL
>>
>> I was very polite, but thought afterwards, wow. Hope she wasn't a
> professor
>> LOL
>>
>> marsha
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Jeanette Fortin
>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 9:38 AM
>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Who Bathes You?
>>
>> WELL I have had folks ask me who cooks for my kids and how much help do i
>> have come in to help, none, when we lived on the island we had a maid but
> it
>>
>> was in support of the local islanders who needed work on the island to
>> support families, i also homeschooled my kids and folks couldn't imagine
> how
>>
>> a blind person could teach anything, really?
>> just amazing, jeanette
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:11 AM
>> Subject: [Blindtlk] Who Bathes You?
>>
>>
>>>I went to see a dermatologist once who said, You're really clean! Who
>>>bathes you?" I expressed my dismay that a well educated person like a
>>>doctor would ask such an offensively stereotypical question, as I took
>>>out
>>>my business card and handed it to him.Then I asked him "Who bathes you?"
> He
>>
>>>apologized profusely, sharing that he understands how I feel because he
> has
>>
>>>a clubbed foot! There's no accounting for convoluted logic! In the words
> of
>>
>>>Archie Bunker, "That's the kind of straight thinking we need nowadays!"
>>>
>>> Fraternally yours,
>>> Marion
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Michelle Medina" <michellem86 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 12:05 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Responses of Medical Professionals.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'd have been absolutely furious!!!! In fact, I must confess, I may
>>>> have accidentally *purposely* stabbed her hand or arm as my food was
>>>> spinning by.
>>>> Chelle
>>>>
>>>> On 3/3/11, Hyde, David W. (ESC) <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us> wrote:
>>>>> When I was a kid in Oregon, most blind children were treated at the
>>>>> University of Oregon Medical School. Being an RLF (now ROP, nothing's
>>>>> changed but the initials) child, all the interns took a look at me.
>>>>> Looking
>>>>> back, I don't remember any of them introducing themselves, but they
> sure
>>>>> loved working with the pressure gage and the slit lamp.
>>>>>
>>>>> My best medical story, though, comes from eye surgery in the
>>>>> seventies.
>>>>> I
>>>>> was in the hospital after surgery, and was getting my first real meal.
> I
>>>>> know that there was something on my chart that said I was blind,
>>>>> since,
>>>>> after all, the bandages over the eyes wouldn't give any clue. The
>>>>> service
>>>>> staff came in, and put the food tray on the table over the bed, and I
>>>>> thanked her, assuming our interaction was done. She looked at me,
> looked
>>
>>>>> at
>>>>> my wife who was in the room, and turned the tray 180 degrees. I
>>>>> thanked
>>>>> her
>>>>> again. She looked back at me, back at my wife and turned it again.
> After
>>
>>>>> the
>>>>> third iteration, I confess I lost my patience and asked if I was just
>>>>> supposed to use a fork to stab something as it went by.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's funny now, but frustrating then.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Mary Mc Gee
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 3:11 PM
>>>>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Responses of Medical Professionals.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Fellow Federationists;
>>>>>
>>>>> I've read with interest all the posts about experiences at
>>>>> health care providers' offices. I have some experiences I can throw
>>>>> into
>>>>> the mix.
>>>>>
>>>>> First, I'll say that, because the cause of my blindness is
>>>>> albinism, I had a unique appearance that was impossible to hide when I
>>>>> was
>>>>> younger. I was a student at the Iowa Braille and Sight Saving School
>>>>> for
>>>>> ten years and, during that time, I went to the University of Iowa for
>>>>> free
>>>>> eye care-at least "they" called it eye care. It was more on the order
>>>>> of
>>>>> eye study because every med student, intern, and ophthalmology
>>>>> resident
>>>>> had
>>>>> to come examines the "albinotic eye" before I received any low vision
>>>>> glasses, etc. that would actually improve what little vision I have.
>>>>> I
>>>>> felt
>>>>> like a zoo or circus animal on display because I was a condition
>>>>> rather
>>>>> than
>>>>> a person. It hurt a lot and I'm not simply talking about all the
> lights
>>>>> shining in my eyes, but also the emotional pain it caused.
>>>>>
>>>>> As an adult I've had some doctors who have been very nice
>>>>> and
>>>>> some who haven't. The number of nice ones directly correlates with my
>>>>> various degrees-all doctors and staffs are nice now that I put
>>>>> "Attorney" on
>>>>> their intake forms.
>>>>>
>>>>> But, when I first came to Des Moines in 1976, visited a
>>>>> neurologist because of migraine headaches. He spent more time looking
>>>>> at my
>>>>> eyes than he did taking a history of the headaches. I went to one
>>>>> doctor
>>>>> whose office staff handed the intake form to my driver too complete
>>>>> until I
>>>>> complained. One time, when I went to an orthopedic surgeon's office
> for
>>
>>>>> an
>>>>> expert consult to prepare for trial, I was greatly surprised that she
>>>>> spent
>>>>> fifteen minutes asking about my vision instead of my client's
> treatment.
>>
>>>>> I
>>>>> simply told her that, if she billed for those extra minutes, she
>>>>> wouldn't be
>>>>> paid, because I would deduct that amount of time from my bill back to
>>>>> the
>>>>> client. She didn't argue and even apologized.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm fortunate that I currently have a sensitive, caring
>>>>> group of
>>>>> physicians. I'll have to admit, though, that the trauma of the past
>>>>> plus my
>>>>> attorney's skepticism is quite hard to eliminate when I meet a new
>>>>> one.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Iowa Department for the Blind has been doing a PR
>>>>> project
>>>>> with health care providers to educate them with the hope that fewer
>>>>> people
>>>>> will have unpleasant experiences when they need help.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd be interested in hearing if any of you, like me, were
>>>>> treated as a medical oddity at any time.
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>
>>>>> Mary L. McGee
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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