[Blindtlk] Cane suggestions needed please!

David Andrews dandrews at visi.com
Mon Mar 14 23:29:07 UTC 2011 

A 50/50 cane is a folding cane that has one joint.  It was sold by 
the NFB for a while -- not sure it is any longer, but it might be.

Dave

At 06:12 PM 3/14/2011, you wrote:
>What is a 50 50 cane?
>
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>Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 3:41 AM
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Cane suggestions needed please!
>
>
>>I agree.  No matter how I twist and pull, I also hve the same 
>>problems.  I use a 50-50 cane, no problems.
>>
>>At 02:11 AM 3/12/2011, you wrote:
>>>Interesting in that I'm having trouble with mine as well.  I do what you
>>>say, Brian, but it still collapses after a while.
>>>Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>Behalf Of Bryan Schulz
>>>Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 11:59 PM
>>>To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Cane suggestions needed please!
>>>
>>>hi,
>>>
>>>you are just not pulling the joints hard enough.
>>>you can let the sections extend to the ground then catch the tip between
>>>your shoes and pull the top segment and feel the friction.
>>>the only time mine becomes shorter is when i don't tug as hard as normal.
>>>you can do a twisting/rotating motion while extending it for more success.
>>>
>>>Bryan Schulz
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Tom Cramer" <tom.cramer1 at gmail.com>
>>>To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 1:44 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Cane suggestions needed please!
>>>
>>>
>>> > Thanks for bringing this topic up.  I have a very similar question.
>>> > I have been getting some of the NFB telescopic canes for a while now,
>>> > but I always find that the last section is the one that always
>>> > collapses.  I don't like folding canes because I find them too heavy
>>> > but I like the telescopic canes because I can just put them away or
>>> > keep them out of the way when they're not being used.
>>> > However, what advice would you have about a good cane to get if these
>>> > telescopic canes are always collapsing when I use them?  I am also 6
>>> > ft 1 and think that the canes I have are too short but at the same
>>> > time, I have been told not to get a cane that's so long so as not to
>>> > trip people and not to be so distracting with it.
>>> > Tom
>>> >
>>> > On 3/11/11, Graves, Diane <dgraves at icrc.in.gov> wrote:
>>> >> Hi James,
>>> >>
>>> >> Well, unfortunately I haven't found this to be a win/win 
>>> situation. >> For
>>> >> the
>>> >> purpose of convenience, I really like the telescopic canes. 
>>> However, >> what
>>>
>>> >> I
>>> >> don't like is the fact that, particularly as they age,  they tend to
>>> >> start
>>> >> folding up on you when contacting items or obstacles which offer any
>>> >> resistance. I stop and tighten them up, and this works for a 
>>> while, >> and
>>> >> then
>>> >> they encounter something else and try to collapse again. They 
>>> look >> good.
>>> >> They are handy. They definitely stow away quickly and easily, 
>>> but for >> the
>>> >> sake of travel, they can be very frustrating, and may even provide a
>>> >> hazard
>>> >> or two.
>>> >>
>>> >> I did really like the roller tips. I tend to use the constant contact
>>> >> method
>>> >> too. I don't know whether you could put one of these on a 
>>> telescopic >> cane
>>>
>>> >> or
>>> >> not. The cane wouldn't stow as easily with one of those.
>>> >>
>>> >> As for the length, if you are 5/5, I definitely would not 
>>> recommend >> going
>>>
>>> >> to
>>> >> a 46 inch cane. I am 5/1, and usually buy about a 57/58 inch cane. You
>>> >> really want to have that length to assure that you have the 
>>> coverage >> and
>>> >> enough forewarning of steps and other things. If you don't 
>>> want to go >> any
>>> >> longer with your canes, I definitely wouldn't go any shorter. 
>>> If you >> go
>>> >> to a
>>> >> roller tip or one of the larger tips, the cane won't get 
>>> caught as >> much.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Diane Graves
>>> >> Civil Rights Specialist
>>> >> Indiana Civil Rights Commission
>>> >> Alternative Dispute Resolutions Unit
>>> >> 317-232-2647
>>> >>
>>> >> "It is service that measures success."
>>> >> George Washington Carver
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>>> >> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>> [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] >> On
>>> >> Behalf Of James Kelm
>>> >> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 1:28 AM
>>> >> To: Blind Talk Mailing List; blinddog3 at charter.net
>>> >> Subject: [Blindtlk] Cane suggestions needed please!
>>> >>
>>> >> Dear friends,
>>> >>
>>> >>     I am looking at purchasing a new spiffy hot rod car of a 
>>> cane, and >> I
>>> >> am
>>> >> hoping that some of the mobility experts on this list can help 
>>> me >> select
>>> >> the
>>> >> appropriate cane!
>>> >>
>>> >>     I am currently using, and have been using for years, a straight
>>> >> folding
>>> >> cane.  I do a lot of in and out of buildings, as well as a lot of
>>> >> traveling
>>> >> within the interior of buildings.  I therefore like a cane that I can
>>> >> "fold"
>>> >> and "unfold" quickly and easily, and that is convenient to 
>>> stow away >> when
>>>
>>> >> I
>>> >> am not traveling.  Because of this, a rigid cane is a big 
>>> hassle for >> me!
>>> >> I
>>> >> like the folding cane, but I am considering getting a 
>>> telescoping >> cane.
>>> >> My
>>> >> thought is that it will be convenient, and I tend to have a 
>>> rather >> light
>>> >> touch, so I do not need something that will withstand a lot of 
>>> abuse. >> I
>>> >> also think that it might be a nifty little sport model, to be able to
>>> >> stow
>>> >> away a very small cane, but quickly pull it out to its length 
>>> when I >> need
>>>
>>> >> to
>>> >> go.  Do any of you have suggestions, or feedback concerning the
>>> >> telescoping
>>> >> canes?
>>> >>
>>> >>     Secondly, I am considering the advantages/disadvantages of 
>>> putting >> a
>>> >> roller tip on the new cane.  I tend to use a constant contact mythod,
>>> >> rather
>>> >> than a tap tap style.  Although I have not had any significant 
>>> issues, >> I
>>> >> am
>>> >> wondering if it would be a bit more smooth given my cane method, if my
>>> >> cane
>>> >> had a roller tip on it.  Am I correct, or is my thinking flawed?
>>> >>
>>> >>     Lastly, I am a statuesque 5 feet 5 inches tall.  My 
>>> current >> folding
>>> >> cane
>>> >> is 53 inches.  I am thinking that it is too long for me, and 
>>> that my >> new
>>> >> cane should be slightly shorter, maybe around 46 or 48 inches.  As I
>>> >> said,
>>> >> most of my travel is done within buildings, and I find that 
>>> the >> current
>>> >> length of my cane is always getting caught in objects, or I am 
>>> having >> to
>>> >> pull it more closely into my body to allow it to be used in tighter
>>> >> spaces.
>>> >> I often feel like either me, or my cane can fit in spaces where I am
>>> >> traveling, but not both of us!  LOLL
>>> >>
>>> >>     Thank you so much for your help!  I sincerely appreciate your
>>> >> guidance
>>> >> and suggestions!
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Your Brother in Christ,
>>> >> Pastor James Kelm
>>> >> Foundational Christian Family Ministry
>>> >> www.fcfministry.org
>>> >>
>>> >>
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>>>l.So,
>>> >> what type of cane is good?
>>> > Tom

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