[Blindtlk] To Drive or not to Drive: that is the question

[Graves, Diane]

I don't know if "silly" is the fitting adjective, but I do hear you talking out of both sides of your mouth, so to speak. On one hand I hear you saying that paratransit is the ultimate cop out and federation offense, and on the other hand I hear you saying that federationists shouldn't be seeking out greater methods of independence, and should be content to stay where we are. I hear you almost scoffing at those in our leadership positions, e.g. "the legal beagles."

I don't believe there is anyone who has proclaimed that we are ready to take to the freeways yet, or would deny that there aren't a great many battles ahead. I don't think there is anyone questioning the fact that the costs will be a factor. But we have taken a tremendous step on another path to independence, and we would be remiss not to follow it.

Incidentally the technology associated with vehicles fails for the sighted as well. Toyota could attest to that.


 


Diane Graves
Civil Rights Specialist
Indiana Civil Rights Commission
Alternative Dispute Resolutions Unit
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-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Roberthansen1970 at gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 8:18 PM
To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] To Drive or not to Drive: that is the question

I am not silly.  I am on the money.
-----Original Message-----
Date: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:40:08 pm
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From: "Steve P. Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com>
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] To Drive or not to Drive: that is the question
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I hope you are not serious about these silly statements concerning not 
driving.
Being able to drive is the ultimate situation.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gloria Whipple" <ladygloria at webband.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 10:34 AM
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> Hi Robert,
>
> I agree with you.
>
> I don't know what the big thing on driving is. Especially if you haven't
> ever drove before.
>
> Who has that type of money in the first place!
>
> I am quite happy the way things are now.
>
>
> Gloria Whipple
> Corresponding Secretary
> Inland Empire chapter
> nfb of WA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Robert A. Hansen
> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 06:50
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] To Drive or not to Drive: that is the question
>
> I thought about the possibility of driving but now I would not even
> consider it.  Firstly, foscile fuels are very expensive.  Gas will be
> well over $5 this summer and they are not going down.  I filled my
> roommate's tank last saturday and her 99 Saturn cost me $50.  That is a
> real hit in the pants.  Secondly I like to keep my "carbon footprint" to
> a minimum.  This also means not driving.  Thirdly, I do not trust the
> technology.  I don't care how good it is.  I do not want some beeping
> vibrating gps whatever and worrying about it failing.  Technology does
> fail and the last thing I want to worry about is causing a major road
> accidnet over something as trivial as driving.  Also the car would not
> be the expensive part of this deal, it would be all of the on board gear
> required for this new venture.  One important thing and there are many
> more, is auto insurance.  Folks, you need to be aware of this one.  If
> you were to be allowed to pursue driving because you are a blind person,
> you aren't going to get the $250 safe driver rate GEICO gives.  You are
> going to have to come to some hard realities about this one.  The blind
> driver "challenge is relatively unproven and only happened on a
> racetrack for a half hour.  I don't care how hard the legal beagles at
> the National Office lobby, you are entering into something that will
> cost a boatload of money and there will be liabilities you will have to
> endeer.  NFB philosopphy or not, reality is reality.  Frankly, I have
> better uses for my money than wasting it on driving.  Anyway we need to
> get more cars off the road and get the public back on the buses and 
> trains.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> Robert A. Hansen
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 4/29/2011 4:24 PM, Constance Canode wrote:
>> I would love to drive, but somehow taking out a second, third and
>> fourth mortgage on my house to be able to afford the car that will
>> obviously cost more than the average car isn't feasible.  Sad but
>> true, I would imagine that many of us, even if t


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