[Blindtlk] cane travel question: trailing or no trailing?

Sat May 14 01:58:33 UTC 2011

Just curious, do you use the cane and the dog interchangably? If 
so, in what situations do you use the dog and in what situations 
do you use the cane? Or do you only use the cane when the dog 
isn't available? Just curious! I'm not old enough to get a dog 
yet, but I want to.

Chris Nusbaum

"A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities motto)

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 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Julie J" <julielj at neb.rr.com
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Date sent: Thu, 12 May 2011 16:28:56 -0500
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] cane travel question: trailing or no 
trailing?

Chris,

The thing about trailing is that sooner or later you are going to 
put your
hand into something or someone where you probably didn't want it.  
*smile*

I think two point touch is the cane travel term you were looking 
for.
shorelining with the cane should find doorways or other landmarks 
that you
were finding using trailing.  Also the sound of the tap of the 
cane should
provide auditory information about hallway openings, the 
proximity of walls,
etc.

I do sometimes use trailing at home where I don't use cane or 
dog.  I find
it especially useful when I have a cold or in the early 
morning-precoffee!

Julie

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
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Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] cane travel question: trailing or no 
trailing?

 Thanks, Kelby! I like the rigid cane because it's lighter, so I 
can use
 the tapping technique (can't remember the ONM term for it) a lot 
easier.
 I think this technique gives you a lot more information from 
sound, plus
 echo location, if you use that.

 Chris Nusbaum

 "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities 
motto)

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 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Kelby Carlson <kelbycarlson at usfamily.net
 To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Wed, 11 May 2011 15:31:37 -0500 (CDT)
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] cane travel question: trailing or no 
trailing?

 I'm going to have to agree on this one.  I occasionally trail if
 I'm looking for a specific door, but even then it's not always
 necessary.  Whether you use a folding or rigid cane, if your
 technique is correct you should have no trouble.  (Trust me, 
it's
 taken me awhile to develop as much confidence as I as far as
 speed of travel goes.  I know how you feel.)

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net
 To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Wed, 11 May 2011 15:04:47 -0500 (CDT)
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] cane travel question: trailing or no
 trailing?

 Frankly, you are not sacrificing any information you get from
 trailing.  Why?  That's because you are mistaken in the belief
 that you get any useful data at all from that technique.  Better
 to develope a faster pace and trust your  cane; and thus, trust
 yourself better also.  Trailing will slow you down and frankly,
 you'l look strange and lacking in confidence compared to the
 other blind dues around you who are getting the girls because
 they are confident.  How's  that for insentive?

 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

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 barefootedray

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 On May 11, 2011, at 2:57 PM, Chris Nusbaum wrote:

 Hi, all.

 I have a cane travel question for you.  For a long time, I was
 using a folding cane with a pencil tip along with the trailing
 technique, especially in familiar areas i.e.  home, school, etc.
 After attending the LAW Program, where they took my folding cane
 on the first day and gave me a straight (aka rigid) cane with a
 metal tip that I was required to use during the four days I was
 there, I started to like the straight cane a lot better and came
 back home with one.  I don't think I'll switch back to a folding
 cane unless I have to, by the way.  While I was at the program,
 one of the blind mentors was helping me learn how to use this 
new
 cane, and in the process told me that he would suggest not
 trailing in hallways (whether they be in familiar or unfamiliar
 areas) and trusting the cane alone.  He then said that I need to
 work on a faster, more confident pace than I have already.  One
 of his reasons for that need of a confident pace, by the way, is
 to "get the girls," LOL.  So I tried not trailing in the 
hallways
 of the Jernigan Institute building, and it did take some getting
 used to.  After the program, I thought about what he'd said.
 Although I can understand what he's talking about with the
 confident pace, I think I get twice the information when I
 combine trailing with cane technique.  So what do you all think?
 Should I sacrifice the information I get from trailing and just
 try to get more information from the cane, or keep trailing and
 have a little slower pace? Or are there any work-arounds you use
 that keep the confident pace and still trail? Any help would be
 appreciated! Thanks!

 Chris Nusbaum

 "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities
 motto)

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