[Blindtlk] JAWS 13 is out TODAY--lucky 13

Tue Oct 25 20:19:43 UTC 2011

Unless FS has changed its practices for this update, you absolutely do have
to buy every version between your most current version and the newest one.
For example, I work with JAWS 9, and to get 13, I'd have to buy every
version between 9 and 13.  I'm not sure exactly what that adds up to, but it
was going to be nearly $300 when I looked into getting JAWS 11, but add
another $250 on top of that... Half the price of JAWS if I bought it brand
new today.

Brian M

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Gloria Whipple
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 1:40 PM
To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] JAWS 13 is out TODAY--lucky 13

I sure hope not! Who can afford that kind of money!

Gloria Whipple
Corresponding Secretary
Inland Empire chapter
nfb of WA

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Kerri Kosten
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:21
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] JAWS 13 is out TODAY--lucky 13

Hi Everyone:

I've been thinking a lot about this.

My SMA ended with Jaws 12 so if I want Jaws 13 I have to pay the stupid SMA
again for the next three versions.

I was able to play with a mac some this summer and while I liked many things
about it there were also things I liked better about Windows. I understand
you can run Windows on a Mac but needing to purchase a new laptop after I
returned home from my friend's I decided to go with a windows 7 Tasheba
Satellite that I found on Amazon for $500.

Now, Jaws 13 is out. Is there anything I as an individual can do to speak up
about all of this or do I just have to pay the SMA and go on?

So, it is true then that if you don't keep up with the latest versions/pay
your SMAS that you get charged for every upgrade you missed when you do
decide you want to upgrade? That is terrible!

How is System Access? Has anyone tried it? I love Jaws and would like to
stay with it and I do have the money for the SMA but I wish there was more I
could do as a windows user to speak up rather than just following the trend
and paying the SMA every time I'm due for one.

I do agree it's the VR system that's keeping these prices so high.

Thoughts everyone?

Kerri

On 10/25/11, Brian Miller <brian-r-miller at uiowa.edu> wrote:
> Too bad competition hasn't reduced the price at all... 13 versions 
> later (not including interim versions) and we still pay the same 
> exorbinent
price
> for every upgrade.  And of course if you don't keep up with them every
year,
> like a tireless JAWS lapdog, then you get soaked for all those interim 
> version to get current.  Even Microsoft isn't this rapacious.  I don't
have
> to buy every intermediary version of Microsoft office just to get the
latest
> version -- I buy the latest version, and that's all.
>
> I blame the VR system in many ways, since these state run programs are 
> the biggest purchasers of JAWS, and they do not negotiate for better 
> price structures.  Most of us are shielded from the high cost of 
> technology
until
> we get out from under the VR umbrella, out on our own, and suddenly we
have
> to pay for things ourselves and realize we're getting soaked.
>
> Meanwhile, I can buy an iPhone of MAC, and have, for the exact same 
> price
as
> my sighted peers.  Hmmm.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> On Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 9:07 PM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] JAWS 13 is out TODAY--lucky 13
>
> And this answers the question of how a screen reader like JAWS remains 
> relevant in a world where access technologies are built in to the
operating
> systems.  Neither Apple nor Microsoft is currently, nor is likely in 
> the near future, to add an accessible OCR package to their built-in 
> screen readers.
>
> Certainly it's doable, and the notion is obvious enough, but it's not 
> been done before.
>
> Competition is good for customers-it produces innovation.
>
> Joseph
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 06:44:08PM -0500, David Andrews wrote:
>>
>>>
>>><http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/JAWS-whats-new.asp>F
>>>r eedom Scientific just released JAWS 13 today
>>>
>>>One of the biggest items is Convenient OCR--for all those nasty PDF 
>>>files that are inaccessible and refuse to be read...AH HAH...there is 
>>>a solution now
>>>
>>>Frequently, you will encounter images that contain textual 
>>>information. These can include a PDF file, the setup screen of an 
>>>application, or the menu of selections for a DVD movie. While these 
>>>images contain text that is readable by a sighted person, JAWS is 
>>>unable to read the text as it is part of the image.
>>>
>>>The new Convenient OCR (Optical Character Recognition) feature 
>>>enables you to access any image on the screen that includes text.
>>>With just a few simple keystrokes, JAWS will recognize the image in a 
>>>matter of seconds and activate the JAWS cursor so you can navigate 
>>>the resulting text. The recognized text will be in the same location 
>>>as the actual image on the screen. In order to differentiate the 
>>>recognized text from other text that may be in the window, JAWS will 
>>>use a different voice when it encounters the recognized text. When 
>>>you activate the PC cursor, or switch to another application or 
>>>dialog box, the text is removed, and you will need to perform the OCR
again.
>>>
>>>To use Convenient OCR, the following layered keystrokes have been added:
>>>
>>>INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W. Recognizes the current application window
>>>that has focus.
>>>INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, S. Recognizes the entire screen.
>>>INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, C. Recognizes the currently selected control,
>>>such as a graphical button.
>>>INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, Q. Cancels recognition while it is in progress.
>>>INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, H. Speaks a brief help message describing the
>>>commands in the OCR layer.
>>>
>>>Read about all the new features at
>>><http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/JAWS-whats-new.asp>J
>>>A
>>>WS
>>>13
>>> More info at: <http://www.yourtechvision.com>www.yourtechvision.com
>>>       Denise
>>>
>>>Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
>>>CEO, TechVision
>>>Specialist in blind technology/teaching/training
>>>email:  <mailto:deniserob at gmail.com>yourtechvision at gmail.com
>>>Website with hundreds of lessons: yourtechvision.com
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