[Blindtlk] One thing I'm tired of

Sun Aug 26 02:14:29 UTC 2012

    Which is why I've been researching and asking questions. I have an idea 
of where I could go for training, but the funding is the hard part.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Ray Foret Jr
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 6:39 PM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] One thing I'm tired of

I agree with Dave completely.  Frankly, you need perhaps to just stop and 
consider what approach you wish to take to this matter.

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

On Aug 25, 2012, at 5:24 PM, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:

> Well, you want your cake and to eat it too, as they say.  Macs are 
> generally bought either on line or from an Apple store.  While there are 
> some dealers who resell them, who may give you a demo, you will pay list 
> price or better.  If you live near an Apple store you can make an 
> appointment and go in and they will show you.  Although I suspect they may 
> not be that familiar with VoiceOver.
>
> Dave
>
> At 04:42 PM 8/25/2012, you wrote:
>>   Ok. How can I get an in home demonstration of a mac book pro? I'm a 
>> hands on learner. I can't sit here and listen to pod casts of people 
>> talking about a product. In order for me to decide if it's something 
>> worth pursueing, I would need to play with it. I'm not going to go to 
>> Best Buy or another computer store to play. I'd rather do it in the 
>> comfort of my home.
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Ray Foret Jr
>> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 2:24 PM
>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] One thing I'm tired of
>>
>> Well, first of all, A Mac mini is not a lap top.  IF it's a lap top you 
>> want, I'd go with the Mac book or Mac book pro.  That will set you back a 
>> bit.  To find out more, go here.
>> www.apple.com.
>>
>> The one I used is the fifteen inch Mac book Pro.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>>
>> On Aug 25, 2012, at 2:07 PM, "Nikki" <daizies304 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  What is a Mac mini? Please fill me in on the features, compairing it to 
>>> a regular laptop.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Ray Foret Jr
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 1:01 PM
>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] One thing I'm tired of
>>>
>>> Well, I don't know about more expensive.  You can get a Mac mini for 
>>> just about $7.00 or so  and have Voice Over built in.  No more trying to 
>>> get authorization keys, no more unstable behavior, no more exorbent 
>>> prices that poor blind people can't pay.  But, there's another side to 
>>> it. There's quite a learning curve.  Do not go in to this expecting the 
>>> Mac to behave like windows.  It ain't gonna  happen.  It took me about 
>>> two or three weeks to get my head around the concepts.  Very easy once 
>>> you get used to it; but, be duely warned, it's not windows; and, you'll 
>>> find yourself frustrated if you go in to this expecting windows-like 
>>> behavior.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>
>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>
>>> Skype name:
>>> barefootedray
>>>
>>> On Aug 25, 2012, at 12:40 PM, "Judy Jones" <jtj1 at cableone.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I hear the Mac is a very good system, very stable, but also more 
>>>> expensive than a Windows system.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nikki" <daizies304 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 11:32 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] One thing I'm tired of
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah. I didn't learn that until after the problems began.
>>>>
>>>> I started with Vista, then the laptop's mother board fried. I had to 
>>>> buy a
>>>> new laptop, but Windows 7 was all you could find. When I tried loading 
>>>> the
>>>> program, it wouldn't complete and say something like "this is an 
>>>> invalid
>>>> platform. I was confused and didn't know what that meant. I called FS, 
>>>> they
>>>> told me to just download the 64 byte version and it will work. So, 
>>>> that's
>>>> what I'm running on now.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to know what some of you computer tech guys think of macs 
>>>> and
>>>> the voice over. Is it better than windows OS and JAWS? Would it be 
>>>> smart to
>>>> go in that direction? How well does it work?
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: David Andrews
>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 11:48 AM
>>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] One thing I'm tired of
>>>>
>>>> JAWS 10 was never designed to work with Windows
>>>> 7.  This could be causing some of your problems.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> At 11:09 PM 8/24/2012, you wrote:
>>>>> Ok. Phew! I'm not the only one experiencing issues with JAWS not 
>>>>> responding. I think it's a number of things with my computer. #1. I 
>>>>> have JAWS 10 on a windows 7 laptop. #2. I let a friend talk me into 
>>>>> downloading all these different programs that will help speed up my 
>>>>> computer. It helped, but started causing problems. It is quite 
>>>>> frustrating to hear a chimed dialog box but nothing is said. The other 
>>>>> day, as it was starting up, it had a starting windows repair window 
>>>>> open saying not to turn off or restart the computer, but JAWS didn't 
>>>>> say that. My 7 year old son read it to me and asked me if I wanted him 
>>>>> to close the window. The computer would have been sitting here with 
>>>>> that window open and I would have been getting upset and worried that 
>>>>> my computer wasn't starting up properly. Right now, I have a window 
>>>>> open for an adobe flash player update, but I don't know how to get to 
>>>>> it. Occasionally JAWS will say, "update ready to be installed" and 
>>>>> that's it. I have issues with Fire Fox as well. Every time I open it, 
>>>>> I have to use the "alt tab" command twice in order to use the program. 
>>>>> Sometimes, when I hit the applications key and scroll up to "send to," 
>>>>> it will stop talking before or just after I reach it. IDK if there is 
>>>>> an auto correct in Word 2007, but, I'll be typing along and I'll want 
>>>>> to go back, re read what I just typed, and somehow my sentences were 
>>>>> broken up and rearranged. It does it in my email as well. I use 
>>>>> Windows Live Mail because I don't know how to use gmail on the 
>>>>> site. -----Original Message----- From: Sherry Gomes Sent: Friday, 
>>>>> August 24, 2012 10:31 PM To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List' Subject: Re: 
>>>>> [Blindtlk] One thing I'm tired of I have that happen a lot with 
>>>>> internet explorer 9, and it is the application, not jaws, because when 
>>>>> everything starts up again, there's a message saying internet explorer 
>>>>> stopped working. Outlook too, oh man, it hangs a lot, just freezes and 
>>>>> locks up the whole darn computer, particularly first thing in the 
>>>>> morning. -----Original Message----- From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>>>> [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Freeman Sent: 
>>>>> Friday, August 24, 2012 8:50 PM To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List' Subject: 
>>>>> Re: [Blindtlk] One thing I'm tired of Perhaps the application you're 
>>>>> using has stopped responding for some reason. I find this happens 
>>>>> periodically in windows 7. Mike -----Original Message----- From: 
>>>>> blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Nikki Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:27 PM To: 
>>>>> blindtlk at nfbnet.org Subject: [Blindtlk] One thing I'm tired of     In 
>>>>> the middle of a task, command, or navigating the net, JAWS just stops 
>>>>> talking, sometimes with a stutter or short muffle. IDK what itï¿½s 
>>>>> doing or why, but there are times when I end up turning offf or 
>>>>> restarting. Sometimes I can get JAWS back on. Any thoughts as to why 
>>>>> this is happening? _______________________________________________
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