[Blindtlk] Thought this was very interesting to post to us all

Thu Dec 6 03:38:38 UTC 2012

The ACB court settlement stipulated that the Treasury would look into making
electronic money identifiers available as an interim step to accessible
currency.

Mike

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From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Judy Jones
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Here here!!

Judy

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From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
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>I think, if people insist on the currency being made accessible, they 
>should also be willing to wait for it to be done properly and not make 
>demands with a timeline which can't be met adequately.  As far as the 
>government making money readers available, I'm opposed to this.  The 
>government has enough to worry about and doesn't need to add anything to 
>the national debt.  Now, before everyone gets all upset saying it wouldn't 
>cost that much, I understand this.  It's just that everyone says the same 
>thing and it is another expense which really isn't something the government

>should be responsible for.  Maybe the people who insist on these changes 
>should come up with a funding source for their money readers, if 
>individuals can't afford them themselves.
>
> Cindy
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Steve Jacobson
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 11:22 AM
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> all
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> While I have been generally opposed to accessible currency, our latest 
> resolutions have stated that our currency should be made
> accessible as part of any currency redesign.  To me, this approach makes 
> sense rather than having a completely separate currency
> change strictly for accessibility where the cost of such a change would be

> separate and completely hung on the disabled.  The fact
> that this has not happened is due to a number of reasons, though, but not 
> for a lack of a resolution on our part.
>
> What really upset me about this issue in year's past was the maintaining 
> on other lists that without accessible currency, we
> basically cannot manage our finances.  There have been cases where blind 
> persons have lost control of their finances because
> someone believed that blind people could not responsibly manage finances. 
> Such cases of which I am aware were not related to the
> lack of accessible currency, but I found it extremely upsetting that 
> people would maintain, with all the battles we have, that the
> lack of accessible currency prevented us from being able to participate in

> the world when we have been doing so as blind persons
> using other techniques for years.
>
> Another issue is to figure out how to make money accessible.  I have seen 
> circulated Canadian money that is accessible where I
> could not feel the markings at all.  Some countries have gone to multiple 
> sizes of bills, and while this approach works, it is a
> major change here, and it would have a considerable impact on machines 
> that accept money.  There needs to be careful thought as to
> what will truly make money accessible, and there needs to be more careful 
> thought, in my opinion, as to the arguments for it.  We
> don't need to hand others excuses for saying we can't be responsible for 
> our finances.  I think there might even be a valid case
> for the government to distribute I Bill devices or something similar free 
> of charge as a medium-term solution.  There are just a
> number of aspects that still need to be thought through.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
> On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 21:46:29 -0500, Mark Tardif wrote:
>
>>Hello, Cheryl.
>
>>I used to be dead set against tactile currency because after all, I have
>>successfully handled U.S. currency for many years without a problem.  Most
>>people either arrange their bills in a certain way or fold the 
>>denominations
>>differently, and I have never been ripped off by anyone, I am quite 
>>certain
>>by far the vast majority of people would never do that.  However, some
>>people have informed me that the incidence of theft and misrepresentation 
>>by
>>a cashier happens more often than I would think.  I also took the trouble 
>>of
>>purchasing a money identifier a few years ago and found it to be quite
>>useful.  Also, I have come to believe that if there is something we can do
>>that might make the playing field a little more level, I am not going to 
>>be
>>so dead set against it.  I guess it is just the natural tendency to change
>>and evolve as one gets older.  It's kind of like not throwing money back 
>>at
>>someone who gives it to me, but finding more mature ways to handle it,
>>unlike what I might have done when I was younger.
>
>
>
>>Mark Tardif
>>Nuclear arms will not hold you.
>>-----Original Message----- 
>>From: cheryl echevarria
>>Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:54 AM
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>>Subject: [Blindtlk] Thought this was very interesting to post to us all
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>
>>Good morning everyone.
>>Even though this is not in the United States, I wanted to post this for us
>>to reconsider for discussion on the topic of US Currency, if other 
>>countries
>>such as South Africa can do it then why cannot the USA.
>>I found this out today, because I belong to SATH.org, Society for 
>>Accessible
>>Travel and Hospitality which is a world wide organization for all people 
>>and
>>travel business that focus on people with disabilities.
>>Accessible South African Currency notes:
>>The new South African Banknotes went officially into circulation on 
>>Tuesday,
>>November 6, 2012.  The new banknotes feature an image of former President
>>Nelson Mandela on the frotn with images of the "Big Five" animals on the
>>back of the various banknote denominations.
>>The South African Reserve Bank has issued new currency notes with
>>state-of-the-art security features and enhancements for the visually
>>impaired.  Nationa organization of persons with disabilities were 
>>consulted
>>in creating the Mandela Series bank notes to ensure that the notes were 
>>made
>>to be accessible to visually impaired users. The Bank also conducted
>>training for visually impaired persons to use the new notes, as well as
>>education and public awareness campaigns prior to the launch of the new
>>currency notes.
>>Please read.
>>If you belong to the Travel & Tourism Division it will be posted there as
>>well.
>
>
>>Your sister in the NFB
>>Cheryl Echevarria
>
>>Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY State
>>Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
>>SNG Certified - Accessible Travel Advocate!
>>Cheryl Echevarria,
>>Ownerhttp://www.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations@echevarriatra
vel.comhttp://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com
>>2012 Norwegian Cruise Line University Advisory Board Member.
>>Echevarria Travel and proud member of the National Federation of the Blind
>>will be holding a year round fundraiser for the http://www.NFBNY.org after
>>Hurricane Sandy and other resources. Any vacation package booked between
>>November 6 2012-November 6, 2013 and vacation must be traveled no later 
>>than
>>12/30/2014 a percentage of my earnings will go to the affiliate.  Also is
>>you book a Sandals for couples or Beaches for families and friends resorts
>>vacation, $100.00 per booking will go to the affiliate as well.  You do 
>>not
>>need to be a member of the NFB.org, just book through us.
>>Thank you.
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