[Blindtlk] iPhone drawbacks?

Sun Feb 19 23:53:33 UTC 2012

The tricky part is trying to key in the menus etc. when the phone switches
between the earpiece and speaker in order to do the entry and the switch
isn't always consistent.

Mike

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From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
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Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 2:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] iPhone drawbacks?

Then I stand corrected.  But weren't you saying that it was tricky to use a
phone system (like Newsline) which has a bunch of menus within menus within
menus and so forth? I guess it would be easier than something like a
telephone banking service, as on Newsline, unless you're calling from a
totally different phone, the system will remember your phone number and you
don't have to reenter your ID number and security code, whereas with a
telephone banking service or a service like that, you would need to enter
your pin number or password each time you call in.  By the way, does anybody
here know if the Newsline app for iOS devices is still in the works? What
about the NLS app?

Chris

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 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com
To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org Date sent: Mon, 13 Feb
2012 19:09:04 -0800
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] iPhone drawbacks?

Newsline works just fine using earbuds.

Mike

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Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 6:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] iPhone drawbacks?

Ah; so it might be a little tricky to use, say, NFB Newsline's phone service
with the iPhone.  Speaking of Newsline, I heard they were working on
designing a Newsline app for iDevices; has anyone heard anything new on
that? Until that app is designed, if it hasn't been already, you could
probably get around this by using Bookshare's Read2Go app to read your
newspapers and magazines, as Bookshare has partnered with Newsline and
provides many of the newspapers and magazines available on Newsline on their
Web site and app.

Chris

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problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that exists.  If a
blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness can be
reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan

 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com
To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org Date sent: 
Sun, 12 Feb
2012 19:38:55 -0800
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] iPhone drawbacks?

The only irksome drawback -- and it's irksome, not lethal -- is that it's
hard to navigate telephone systems with menus within menus that require
entry of multiple digits after dialing the initial telephone number unless
one uses earbuds.  The reason is that when using VoiceOver, a proximity
censor determines whether the telephone is up to one's ear or lying flat (as
to dial) in order to know whether to activate the speaker or have all sound
output come from the slot toward the top of the phone that is the earpiece
when talking on the telephone.  This system doesn't always work flawlessly
and the phone occasionally switches between earpiece and speaker at the
wrong time or doesn't switch fast enough.  However, as one uses the phone,
glitches in this system become less of a problem and using earbuds solves
the problem completely.  Moreover, occasionally when one answers a telephone
call, the system seems to hibernate for about twenty seconds where one
cannot hear the caller nor the caller hear one.  However, this also seems to
be a function of that proximity censor and holding the phone positioned
properly against the ear solves the problem most of the time.

While annoying, this system is a trifle compared to the vast accessibility
one gets with the iPhone.

Mike Freeman

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From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:28 PM
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Subject: [Blindtlk] iPhone drawbacks?

I've heard so much favorable press about the iPhone - does anyone on the
list who uses one find any drawbacks to using it, other than the learning
curve?

Judy
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