[Blindtlk] FW: [censored]

[Ray Foret Jr]

Not only that, (which by the way I remember quite well); but, I also remember that just about every single January for at least three or four years, there was the e-mail indicating that section 8 housing would loose all their money and imediate action was necessary.  Was there ever a bill number?  What you think?  OF course not.


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On Jan 13, 2012, at 8:57 PM, Mike Freeman wrote:

> Steve:
> 
> Verily, thou speakest truth.
> 
> And before there was that email cost warning post, there was the "modem tax"
> post that came by at least once per year that purported to say there was a
> bill in Congress to charge persons for modem use. In fact, that post did
> give a bill number but it wasn't a U.S. bill number -- it was from the
> Canadian parliament which never considered the bill after its initial
> introduction. But the post came around again and again, each time with the
> bill number as it originally appeared in the Canadian parliament.
> 
> As H.L. Mencken once said: "nobody ever went broke underestimating the
> intelligence of the American public.".
> 
> Mike Freeman
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 1:15 PM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] FW: [censored]
> 
> Chris,
> 
> There are a couple of problems with all this that I see.  First, if our
> national office says that we 
> will be introducing a bill and they tell us what it is about, we know that
> this information is accurate 
> because it is coming from people within our organization we know and is
> directed at our members.  If we 
> get an e-mail and we don't know anything about the person who actually
> started it, we can't assume that 
> the issue is valid nor can we trust any links that are forwarded in that
> note.  In this case, I checked 
> the web site Eric gave and there was no bill number there.  That is rather
> sloppy because it turns out 
> there really is a bill and a bill number, but both his and your notes did
> not provide us with any 
> independent way to verify the legitimacy of what was being said.  You may be
> too new to remember this, 
> but for perhaps a decade, an urgent e-mail came around once a year telling
> us to call congress because 
> the post office was about to start charging for e-mail.  Whether anybody
> ever talked about doing that or 
> not wasn't really relevant.  The fact was that there was no bill, but it was
> urgent that we do something 
> for years.  In my opinion, if those who want people to do something are
> serious, and I mean the people 
> who wrote the original e-mails and not you or Eric, they should have
> included a bill number.
> 
> Second, while this is a legitimate bill and while it could impact all of us
> in some way, it really does 
> not impact us particularly because we are blind.  Lots of things impact us
> as human beings, but we 
> really can't afford to have everything come across our lists that impact us
> as human beings.  We need to 
> limit these lists to those topics that are specific to blindness or we will
> be overloaded to say the 
> least.  It is especially true this year because of the elections.  Since who
> is president impacts us, 
> one could, on that basis, forward campaign materials for all candidates to
> this list.  We might here, at 
> some point, about positions candidates take on specific issues that have to
> do with blindness, but we 
> need to look at normal channels to get general campaign information.  
> 
> I hope this makes some sort of sense.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Steve Jacobson
> 
> On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 12:36:23 -0600, Chris Nusbaum wrote:
> 
>> Eric,
> 
>> This is the same bill the guy who wrote the email I forwarded was 
>> talking about.  I happen to know the name of the bill: the Stop 
>> Internet Piracy Act (SOPA.) I'm not sure of a bill number, but at 
>> least you can Google the name of the bill and find it.  So how 
>> can you say that what you sent about the same bill
>> effects all blind people, but what I sent doesn't? Also, both 
>> emails provided a Web site on which you can sign a petition; one 
>> to Congress itself to vote against the bill and one to Electronic 
>> Arts (EA) to tell their officials to make a company-wide stance 
>> against the bill.  So, I saw both emails as a short ad; a teaser 
>> of sorts.  It's an advertising ploy; describe the bill's intent 
>> in a way that gets the audience fired up, then give a Web site 
>> hoping that people will start to feel passionate about supporting 
>> or opposing this bill and will go to the site and sign the 
>> petition.  Also, the email I sent may not be as professionally 
>> written as, say, the official complaints or petitions written by 
>> the NFB's governmental affairs team, but it is a citizen writing 
>> to other citizens asking them to sign a petition and help him 
>> spread the word about something he is passionate about, which he 
>> has the right to do, and so do I to distribute it, and so do all 
>> of us! So, although the email itself might not have a bill number 
>> or any "official" information, you might find that information on 
>> the Web site itself, as that Web site has the actual petition.
> 
>> If the petition wasn't legitimate, then why would the email have 
>> a Web site of an organization who is circulating a petition, and 
>> gives you a place to sign the petition? And, what makes your 
>> petition any more legitimate than mine? By the way, I read your 
>> ad in the Ziegler; wow! What an appeal to the ladies, LOL!
> 
>> Chris
> 
>> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The 
>> real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that 
>> exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and 
>> opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical 
>> nuisance."
>> -- Kenneth Jernigan
> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Eric Calhoun" <eric at pmpmail.com
>> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 02:01:52 -0600
>> Subject: [Blindtlk] FW: [censored]
> 
>> See this, Chris?  This one affects all blind people.  It talks 
>> about the
>> bill, its intent, and why people should sign the petition.
> 
>> Eric
> 
> 
>> Original Message:
>> From: "Jess Kutch, Change.org" <mail at change.org
>> To: eric at pmpmail.com
>> Subject: [censored]
>> Date:
>> Tue, 10 Jan 2012 22:58:45 -0800
> 
>> Congress has a plan to change the Internet forever.  A bill 
>> they're
>> debating right now would give the government power to shut down 
>> whole
>> websites, and even let corporations say which websites should be 
>> shut down.
> 
>> That means a huge corporation could have any website even 
>> suspected of
>> violating a copyright shut down -- no questions asked.  The 
>> government could
>> then completely block all access to sites as big as Facebook or 
>> YouTube if
>> one person posts one thing on those websites that corporations 
>> don't want
>> online.
> 
>> Most major entertainment companies have come out in support of 
>> the bill,
>> but despite swirling rumors, the huge video-gaming company 
>> Electronic Arts
>> (EA) has yet to take an official stance.  However, EA is part of 
>> the
>> Entertainment Software Association, one of the big corporate 
>> lobbyists for
>> the bill to censor the Internet -- meaning that if EA came out 
>> against the
>> bill, that would be a serious blow to the people trying to get it 
>> passed.
> 
>> Shashank Kasturirangan is a student at NYU who's a huge fan of 
>> gaming --
>> including EA's games -- but he can't believe that EA would want 
>> to mess
>> with the Internet.  Shashank started a petition on Change.org 
>> calling on
>> Electronic Arts to stop lobbying for Congress's plan to censor 
>> the Internet
>> and come out against the bill.  Click here to add your name to 
>> his petition.
> 
>> http://www.change.org/petitions/tell-electronic-arts-to-oppose-in
>> ternet-cens
>> orship?utm_source=action_alert&utm_medium=email&alert_id=dZDVYxQm
>> LI_oLKqgeiB
>> KM&me=aa
> 
>> The Internet censorship bill is particularly dangerous, according 
>> to
>> advocates, because it would enable the government to set up the 
>> same type
>> of tools to block online content that are used in repressive 
>> regimes around
>> the world, like China, Iran, and Syria.  For the first time, 
>> corporations
>> and the government would be able to say what's acceptable to put 
>> on the
>> Internet.
> 
>> While some companies like Google, Facebook, and Twitter have come 
>> out
>> against the bill, big movie studios, record companies, and their 
>> corporate
>> lobbyists like the Entertainment Software Association are pushing 
>> Congress
>> hard to pass Internet censorship.
> 
>> Electronic Arts has millions of customers around the world 
>> playing video
>> games like Madden 2012, The Sims, and Scrabble, and they care 
>> deeply about
>> what the public thinks about their company.  If enough people 
>> call on EA to
>> oppose the plan to censor the Internet, they will be forced to 
>> come out
>> against the bill.  And if EA backs off, other companies that 
>> haven't yet
>> taken a position will certainly think twice before supporting 
>> Congress's
>> plan to censor the Internet.
> 
>> Sign Shashank's petition to Electronic Arts to stop lobbying for 
>> Internet
>> censorship and oppose the bill in Congress.  Click here to sign.
> 
>> http://www.change.org/petitions/tell-electronic-arts-to-oppose-in
>> ternet-cens
>> orship?utm_source=action_alert&utm_medium=email&alert_id=dZDVYxQm
>> LI_oLKqgeiB
>> KM&me=aa
> 
>> Thanks for being a change-maker,
> 
>> - Jess and the Change.org team
> 
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