[Blindtlk] Audio Description

Penny Duffy pennyduffy at gmail.com
Mon Jun 18 15:54:37 UTC 2012


Bennett ,

We have comcast and have used audio description for my daughter for over a
year with PBS programs.  (depending on the PBS channel they send the audio
described  audio)   I have noticed that some stations for some programs
already and they don't always say they are audio described. We found one of
the new Sherlock Holmes movies audio described on TNT.

How we have gotten it to work is in the menu on the audio description menu
(which i under the cable boxes audio setting menu)   i choose Spanish for
language.  I don't understand the logic but thats the  only way I have been
able to get it to work.  That works for my Comcast box not sure if its
different for each box.

There are some stations that send NO audio at all in descriptive video so
the programs are completely silent. I am hoping that changes after the
'switch' officially happens. Its very confusing and I can see all the menus
and settings.

I don't know if this helps anyone at all. Just wanted to share we have had
some success..
-Penny

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Prows, Bennett (HHS/OCR) <
Bennett.Prows at hhs.gov> wrote:

> I happened to have the comcast technicians out to the house on Friday
> last, to give me a new cable box, since the old one wasn't working anymore.
> I asked them about audio description service, and they weren't sure how it
> was accessed.  But, they then went to the cable box menu, found the setting
> for "audio described", and set it to "on." Later, I found a program that
> was supposed to be audio described, but I heard no description. I had one
> of the kids push the SAP button on the TV remote with no result.  (Or a
> negative result as it were.)
>
> So, my next step will be to call Comcast again. The techs suggested there
> might have to be something done at their end, i.e. in the computer. Not
> sure.
>
> Anyway, I'll keep trying.
>
> /s/
>
> Bennett Prows
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Mike Freeman
> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 3:31 PM
> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Audio Description
>
> Newton Minnow, chair of the Federal Communications Commission in the early
> 1960's, called television a "wasteland". While the advent of cable,
> satellite and Internet TV has helped some, I still think his
> characterization is more-or-less on the mark. (grin)
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Humberto Avila
> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 11:57 AM
> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Audio Description
>
> Gosh, if only cable set top boxes had JAWS on them...I would be messing
> with that right now, and at this point, I don't know if there are any cable
> set top boxes are, or can be, configured to be accessible for screen
> readers or some sort of screen reader can be installed there, if such thing
> is possible. I just don't like my parents doing everything for me. Anyways,
> I hope that there is audio description and that these networks are taking
> it very seriously. Then, I'll be watching TV like no other! Everyone will
> be a virtual sighted person for a moment, while watching TV anyways. *
> smile! *
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Michelle Medina
> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 9:25 AM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Audio Description
>
> O geeze. . . so I'll have to call out Charter cable company then
> because my parents have no idea how to figure that junk out and
> neither do I. Lol.
>
> On 6/15/12, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
> > the trick is to find where your audio setup menu is on your cable box.
> > That's how you access it; if it's even there.
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> >
> > Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> >
> > Skype name:
> > barefootedray
> >
> > On Jun 15, 2012, at 10:05 AM, Michelle Medina wrote:
> >
> >> So my question is HOW do I access this?
> >> I'll phone into Newsline and it'll tell me that something is audio
> >> described, but according to my family I don't have the button required
> >> on my TV, or cable box to gain access. So do I need to buy some
> >> special TV and if so where would I obtain it?
> >>
> >> On 6/15/12, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Beginning July 1, ABC, CBS, Fox and NBC, plus the
> >>> top five cable networks will begin providing
> >>> audio descriptions of some of their programming
> >>> for blind or sight-impaired viewers. The shows to
> >>> be described range from ABC's Modern Family to
> >>> CBS's NCIS to Nickelodeon's Dora the Explorer to USA's Royal Pains.
> >>>
> >>> For now, stations in the top 25 markets and cable
> >>> systems with 50,000 or more subs will be required
> >>> to offer about four hours a week of the new
> >>> service. The number of stations and hours will gradually increase.
> >>>
> >>> Starting July 1, the country’s 21.5 million
> >>> visually impaired people will be able to enjoy TV more than ever
> before.
> >>>
> >>> On that day, the Big Four broadcast networks and
> >>> the top five-rated cable networks will begin
> >>> offering four hours a week of so-called video
> >>> descriptions that clue in blind and partially
> >>> sighted viewers on what's going on when the
> >>> characters aren't talking. The descriptions,
> >>> audible only to viewers who want them to be
> >>> audible, are squeezed in between the dialog.
> >>>
> >>> Video descriptions have been part of
> >>> broadcasting, cable, home video, but never to the
> >>> extent on TV as they will be beginning next month.
> >>>
> >>> It's not altruism driving the surge in
> >>> descriptions. They were mandated by Congress in
> >>> the 21st Century Communications and Video Accessibility Act of 2010.
> >>>
> >>> According to the FCC's implementing rules, the
> >>> Big Four O&Os and affiliates in the top 25
> >>> markets will have to air 50 hours each quarter ­
> >>> or roughly four hours a week ­ of described programming.
> >>>
> >>> Cable and satellite systems with at least 50,000
> >>> subscribers have to offer the same amount of
> >>> described programming for the top five-rated
> >>> cable networks ­ currently Disney, Nickelodeon, TBS, TNT and USA.
> >>>
> >>> And with just weeks to go before the deadline,
> >>> the described programming plans of nine affected networks are shaping
> >>> up.
> >>>
> >>> ABC’s plan is to provide descriptions on some of
> >>> its Tuesday and Wednesday shows. This summer,
> >>> those shows include sitcoms Last Man Standing,
> >>> The Middle, Suburgatory, Modern Family, Happy
> >>> Endings and Don't Trust the B---- in Apt. 23.
> >>>
> >>> In the fall, ABC will likely include most of
> >>> those shows and new sitcom The Neighbors and new drama Nashville.
> >>>
> >>> CBS has been providing audio descriptions for
> >>> several programs since 2002. The lineup is CSI,
> >>> Criminal Minds, NCIS, NCIS: Los Angeles, plus movies and miniseries.
> >>>
> >>> NBC has broadcast a slew of shows with
> >>> descriptions, including the Betty White reality
> >>> show Off Their Rockers, drama Grimm and the
> >>> summer series Saving Hope. Described sitcoms
> >>> include The Office, Up All Night and Parks and Recreation.
> >>>
> >>> At Fox, The Simpsons has been audio described for
> >>> several years. Beyond the animated sitcom, Fox
> >>> isn't prepared to say what it would be offering.
> >>>
> >>> Disney Channel's described shows will include hit
> >>> sitcoms Jessie, A.N.T. Farm and the animated Phineas and Ferb.
> >>>
> >>> Nickelodeon will offer descriptions for some of
> >>> its biggest hits, like the long-running animated
> >>> Dora the Explorer and preschool educational show Team Umizoomi.
> >>>
> >>> Turner Broadcasting will have described movies as
> >>> well as TV series. Among the series: TNT’s The
> >>> Closer and TBS’s Tyler Perry comedies House of Payne and For Better or
> >>> Worse.
> >>>
> >>> USA’s described programs will include off-network
> >>> shows NCIS and Law & Order: SVU, plus originals like Royal Pains and
> >>> Suits.
> >>>
> >>> “My hope is that more and more networks will
> >>> embrace these accessibility initiatives,” says
> >>> Joel Snyder, president of Audio Description
> >>> Associates. He serves as director of the American
> >>> Council of the Blind’s audio description project and is an adviser to
> >>> the
> >>> FCC.
> >>>
> >>> “If they do it right, they'll find ways to make
> >>> money from it. If they make their shows
> >>> accessible to these folks, there is a bigger
> >>> market for advertisers to sell their products.”
> >>>
> >>> For the most part, video-described programs won't
> >>> include live shows or news. The networks, which
> >>> are providing most of this content to their
> >>> affiliates, need time to write description scripts for voice artists to
> >>> record.
> >>>
> >>> “It takes longer to get that done than closed
> >>> captioning,” says one network executive. “It also
> >>> requires us to look at how our post-production
> >>> schedules are set up. We have to work very
> >>> closely with the folks at the post-production
> >>> houses to make sure we get the programming to our
> >>> vendors with sufficient time to get the video description correct.”
> >>>
> >>> Producing the descriptions costs between $2,000 to $4,000 per hour.
> >>>
> >>> The networks and some associations for the blind
> >>> are helping to ensure that people with vision
> >>> problems know that descriptions are coming.
> >>>
> >>> “It’s great for the networks to comply, but
> >>> what’s more important is getting the information
> >>> out to folks,” says Helena Berger, EVP-COO of the
> >>> American Association of People with Disabilities.
> >>> She is also a member of Comcast-NBCUniversal’s joint diversity council.
> >>>
> >>> “What we can do on our end at AAPD is to use our
> >>> communication channels, like our newsletter, our
> >>> website and social media to get the word out to the community.”
> >>>
> >>> Some of the networks are creating logos and audio
> >>> tones so that people with vision problems know
> >>> when a program has audio descriptions. So far,
> >>> there isn't an industry standard.
> >>>
> >>> And TV listing providers like Tribune Media
> >>> Services will provide data to programming
> >>> services to let them know if a program is
> >>> audio-described. Then, it’s up to individual
> >>> cable systems to add symbols or sounds to their on-screen listings.
> >>>
> >>> These described programs are the culmination of a
> >>> 12-year battle by the FCC and groups such as the
> >>> Audio Description Institute. They thought they
> >>> had won the battle in 2000 when the FCC adopted
> >>> rules similar to the 2010 act, but a court agreed
> >>> with broadcasters that the agency had overstepped its authority.
> >>>
> >>> Now backed by law, the new FCC rules gradually
> >>> expand the description obligations to other TV
> >>> stations. By July 1, 2015, major network
> >>> affiliates in the top 60 markets will have to
> >>> broadcast the descriptions. The FCC may require
> >>> additional stations to air descriptions at a rate
> >>> of 10 markets a year if it deems the cost is reasonable.
> >>>
> >>> According to broadcasters, it costs stations
> >>> anywhere from $10,000 and $25,000 to install the
> >>> gear necessary to handle the extra audio channel.
> >>>
> >>> Just because someone has a disability doesn't
> >>> mean they don't want to be included in life,”
> >>> says Debra Ruh, chief marketing officer at SSB
> >>> Bart Group, a firm that helps companies make
> >>> their computer services and websites fully
> >>> compliant and accessible to people with
> >>> disabilities. “Part of participating in life is
> >>> being able to experience television. TV is a very
> >>> important part of our culture.”
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> blindtlk mailing list
> >>> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> >>> blindtlk:
> >>>
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/michellem86%40gmail.com
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> "Like the sun we will live to rise,
> >> Like the sun we will live and die!
> >> And then. . . ignite again!"
> >> "Live to Rise"--Christopher Cornell/Soundgarden, from The Avengers
> >> Soundtrack
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> blindtlk mailing list
> >> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> >> blindtlk:
> >>
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/rforetjr%40att.net
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > blindtlk mailing list
> > blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> > blindtlk:
> >
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/michellem86%40gmail.com
> >
>
>
> --
> "Like the sun we will live to rise,
> Like the sun we will live and die!
> And then. . . ignite again!"
> "Live to Rise"--Christopher Cornell/Soundgarden, from The Avengers
> Soundtrack
>
> _______________________________________________
> blindtlk mailing list
> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> blindtlk:
>
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/avila.bert.humberto2%40gmail.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> blindtlk mailing list
> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> blindtlk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/k7uij%40panix.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> blindtlk mailing list
> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> blindtlk:
>
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/bennett.prows%40hhs.gov
> _______________________________________________
> blindtlk mailing list
> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> blindtlk:
>
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/pennyduffy%40gmail.com
>



-- 
-- 
--Penny
----------
My Blog - visionfora.blogspot.com

NH Parents of Blind Children http://www.nhpobc.org/
NHPOBC on facebook   https://www.facebook.com/nhpobc



More information about the BlindTlk mailing list